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post #91 of 99

I am go to go out on a limb and say that @whorippedit is a past disgruntled member, maybe Patrick or that Peterich kid...

post #92 of 99
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Originally Posted by Fourputt View Post
 

 

No comments on Mr. Thorpe or Mr. Dent, or Mr. Elder?  

 

Actually Lee Elder predated Calvin Pete and was the first black golfer to play in the Masters.  He won fewer tournaments than Peete, but he would be the one who truly cracked the race barrier on the PGA Tour for the first time.  Jim Thorpe and Jim Dent were also pros from an earlier date than Peete.

 

A quote from Wikipedia on Lee Elder's experiences with the racial issues on Tour. If not for Elder's efforts and perseverance and dedication to changing racial attitudes, Calvin Peete might never have had a chance to achieve the success he did.

 

Makes me sick to my stomach when I read and hear about these past incidents and incidents today.  When will the human race grow up?

 

Didn't Trevino have the same incident at Augusta?

post #93 of 99
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Originally Posted by boogielicious View Post
 

Makes me sick to my stomach when I read and hear about these past incidents and incidents today.  When will the human race grow up?

 

Didn't Trevino have the same incident at Augusta?

 

The make up of golfers in my area is all over the map (globe, that is). A few people were trying out different swings, and helping each other out at the range last night. They all had different racial and ethnic backgrounds.

 

I could hear their accents, but they were all talking golf together.

 

More people will appreciate the golfers like Lee Elder and Calvin Peete in the future.

 

BTW, I read the book "Uneven Lies: The Heroic Story of African-Americans in Golf" by Pete McDaniel, Tiger Woods (Foreword by)

 

Excellent read.

post #94 of 99
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

 

Will you be starting threads for all of the many players who were overlooked despite an adequate but largely unremarkable PGA Tour career?

 

How many of them are still in the record books for being one of the best ever at any aspect of golf?

 

If you want to start a thread on Dave Stockton and his exceptional putting ability, for example, and where he ranks amongst the best putters of all time, I think you might actually find some people interested in that.

 

But while I was mainly interested here in Peete's golf game, it strikes me as odd that so many people would think his historic importance as an African American in what was not too long ago a largly segregated sport is not also something worthy of discussion and attention. Isn't it obvious that this also gives him a little more historical importance than someone like Dave Stockton or Scott Hoch?

 

In other sports, it seems that guys are memorialized who were pioneers of desegregation.  In baseball, sure Jackie Robinson was also a superstar, but plenty of people also remember Larry Doby. In Tennis, people know the name of Arthur Ashe. In golf, which was actually slower to remove barriers (look at the history of Augusta for example), it sometimes seems as though the establishment is less eager to discuss and remember this history. 

 

Granted, I think part of the reason we don't see more of Calvin Peete is that he himself is a humble guy who (unlike Moe Norman for example) never did a lot of bragging and self promotion. But at 70 years old, he's certainly a guy I wouldn't mind seeing more of as one of the elder statesmen of the game, while he's still around to share some of his knowledge and experience. 

post #95 of 99
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How many of them are still in the record books for being one of the best ever at any aspect of golf?

 

If you want to start a thread on Dave Stockton and his exceptional putting ability, for example, and where he ranks amongst the best putters of all time, I think you might actually find some people interested in that.

 

But while I was mainly interested here in Peete's golf game, it strikes me as odd that so many people would think his historic importance as an African American in what was not too long ago a largly segregated sport is not also something worthy of discussion and attention. Isn't it obvious that this also gives him a little more historical importance than someone like Dave Stockton or Scott Hoch?

 

In other sports, it seems that guys are memorialized who were pioneers of desegregation.  In baseball, sure Jackie Robinson was also a superstar, but plenty of people also remember Larry Doby. In Tennis, people know the name of Arthur Ashe. In golf, which was actually slower to remove barriers (look at the history of Augusta for example), it sometimes seems as though the establishment is less eager to discuss and remember this history.

 

Granted, I think part of the reason we don't see more of Calvin Peete is that he himself is a humble guy who (unlike Moe Norman for example) never did a lot of bragging and self promotion. But at 70 years old, he's certainly a guy I wouldn't mind seeing more of as one of the elder statesmen of the game, while he's still around to share some of his knowledge and experience.

I agree, but I'd also suggest that's partially due to the limited number of African Americans on any of the Tours, for the same reason I'd include hockey in the discussion as well.

post #96 of 99
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Originally Posted by acerimusdux View Post
 

How many of them are still in the record books for being one of the best ever at any aspect of golf?

 

If you want to start a thread on Dave Stockton and his exceptional putting ability, for example, and where he ranks amongst the best putters of all time, I think you might actually find some people interested in that.

 

Calvin Peete wasn't the best driver of the golf ball. The most accurate, yes, but there's more to driving than being accurate. That's like saying someone is the most accurate 100-120-yard wedge player. Accuracy is part of driving, and not even the most important part.

 

Plus, you didn't see the PMs the OP sent, or apparently, many of his previous posts… :)

post #97 of 99
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

 

Calvin Peete wasn't the best driver of the golf ball. The most accurate, yes, but there's more to driving than being accurate. That's like saying someone is the most accurate 100-120-yard wedge player. Accuracy is part of driving, and not even the most important part.

 

No, and it seems to be becoming less and less important. Some of that may be due to modern equipment and course layouts, as well.  In Calvin's time though, he also managed to lead the tour three years running in GIR. So it's not like it was unimportant. Of course even GIR is an imperfect measure. It doesn't tell you how close that approach shot was to the hole when it landed on the green.  If the drive was short, maybe the approach was from farther, and thus the first put was longer, etc.  It's too bad we don't have stokes gained driving stats for the 1980s.

 

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Plus, you didn't see the PMs the OP sent, or apparently, many of his previous posts… :)

 

I could see the one guy had some, lets say, adjustment issues. I don't think he started the thread though?

post #98 of 99
I remember seeing him on TV in the seventies.
The only thing that distinguished him from a hundred other low profile players, apart from the obvious, was the diamond in his tooth.
That in itself made him appear flamboyant, but there was nothing exceptional about his game. I much preferred watching guys like Lanny Wadkins and Crenshaw.
post #99 of 99
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I could see the one guy had some, lets say, adjustment issues. I don't think he started the thread though?

 

You're right, I was wrong. Not the OP. The obvious guy (now banned) had issues. Not the OP.

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