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Is it possible the ProV1 balls go THIS much farther?

post #1 of 17
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Playing in Ohio meant lots of cold weather early in the season.  Any ball felt like a ROCK playing in weather 60 degrees or colder.  Now that the weather and course conditions have improved, I'm playing ProV1 balls.

 

There are several holes on my home course that require forced carries of about 180.  Early in the season, my drives weren't even going far enough to clear them.  Same with a few par-3s ... 150 carry over a ravine and I'm hitting a 4 hybrid to make sure I didn't come up short and visit the drop area.

 

Anyway, I played a brand new ProV1 last Thursday, cleared the 180 forced carry by plenty.  Tee ball ended up 40 yards further into the fairway.  Next hole was a par-3, 148 to pin on a long front to back kidney sharped green.  Hit 7-iron past pin-high.  My usual 7-iron with any other ball goes 130-140 when struck REALLY well.  The other par-3 with the150 carry across a ravine, I hit a 5-hybrid past pin high.  Rangefinder dialed in 165 to pin.

 

Yesterday during an 18-hole round, I measured card yardage on three holes minus distance to center of green pins with Bushnell range finder.  Drives measured 232 to 242 based on information I had.  These drives went EASILY 30 yards farther than others played with same driver, similar conditions but using a Nike 20XI, Nike 20XIx Callaway Red or Black, or Bridgestone e6 ball.

 

Is it possible that ProV1 balls go THAT much farther than the others?  I'm not any stronger and my swing certainly isn't any better.  The only real external changes are warmer weather and perhaps a bit drier conditions.  But 30 yards farther with a ProV1?  If so, I'll never play another ball from now on.

 

dave

post #2 of 17
The warmer weather has a lot to do with it I'd suspect. I believe a golf ball will carry a yard or two further for every 5* in temperature change, if my memory serves me correctly. The dry conditions could contribute to the longer drives just on roll-out, but it would actually make the ball carry slightly shorter than if it was humid (water vapor is less dense than air, 18 grams/mol vs around 30 grams/mol). Perhaps the ProV1 has a higher spin rate than the others with your swing, letting the ball stay in the air longer?
post #3 of 17

Indeed warmer temps, higher air pressure and even warmer golf balls will all help to lengthen golf shots. Well, thats the only reason I can put down to them PGA pro's driving over 300 yards while I struggle to get to 200! :)

 

Regards

 

Mailman

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Indeed warmer temps, higher air pressure and even warmer golf balls will all help to lengthen golf shots. Well, thats the only reason I can put down to them PGA pro's driving over 300 yards while I struggle to get to 200! :)

Regards

Mailman
Just a correction here, higher atmospheric pressure means a ball goes shorter, not longer. It's the reason I can hit it much longer at home a mile above sea level, then lose some yardage if I travel down near sea level.

For this reason, I hope Bubba Watson makes it to the BMW Championship, because I want to watch him when I go to the tournament at Cherry Hills this fall. He'll crush it a looooooooong ways if he goes there, and probably could pull an Arnold Palmer on the first hole.
post #5 of 17

as a shorter hitter, you may need the extra spin from a ball like that to keep the ball in the air.

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Originally Posted by colin007 View Post
 

as a shorter hitter, you may need the extra spin from a ball like that to keep the ball in the air.



Good a reason as any.  I had several drives that hung in the air a long time yesterday afternoon.  Same with iron shots.  Lot higher than usual.  Longer time in air means longer distance without a doubt.

 

dave

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Originally Posted by Pretzel View Post

The warmer weather has a lot to do with it I'd suspect. I believe a golf ball will carry a yard or two further for every 5* in temperature change, if my memory serves me correctly. The dry conditions could contribute to the longer drives just on roll-out, but it would actually make the ball carry slightly shorter than if it was humid (water vapor is less dense than air, 18 grams/mol vs around 30 grams/mol). Perhaps the ProV1 has a higher spin rate than the others with your swing, letting the ball stay in the air longer?

 

Truth may be in 'all of the above.'  I could see maybe 10 yards farther, but some drives went 30 yards, maybe more longer than usual.  As mentioned, I'll take it!  Lots of hang time on drives and other iron shots.  Has to be a combination of higher spin rate, more hang time, a bit drier conditions and warmer weather.  It's been a long, cold and wet spring.  Let the 80+ temps stay a long time this year.

 

dave

post #8 of 17

Pro v1s always seem to fly further and straighter for me so I dunno, I think they really are the best ball.  Too bad I'm still too cheap to buy them.  :-P

post #9 of 17

I own a launch monitor.  I did a ball fitting on myself went and bought lots of sleeves of mid to high end balls.

 

Based on what I experienced as a 13 handicap golfer, a ball may change your spin a couple hundred RPM which is not going to do a lot.  And......they all go the same distance.

It is not magic, it is not technically difficult to bring a golf ball to the USGA limit.

 

I then picked a golf ball on price and how if feels and spins around the green.  I believe unless you are a low single digit or less it really is not going to matter.

Costco had a Callaway Hex Pro ball on sale, they were dumping their optic yellow balls at $15 a dozen.  They are a private label ball for Costco, 4 piece with a Urethane cover.

I bought a TON of balls.  I will be playing them for years.  On the rare occasion that I zing one in the lake at least it is not a $3+ ball. 

 

It is the Indian not the arrow!

post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Pretzel View Post

Just a correction here, higher atmospheric pressure means a ball goes shorter, not longer. It's the reason I can hit it much longer at home a mile above sea level, then lose some yardage if I travel down near sea level.

Sorry, my bad :) I couldn't remember which way around it was :)

Regards

Mailman
post #11 of 17

Humidity will also affect distance.  Humid air is less dense.

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Humidity will also affect distance.  Humid air is less dense.

 

Seems it should be the other way around but it is true. Humid air is less dense.

 

Another factor that may be in play is that your body is more limber and loose with the higher temperatures and humidity.

 

I know that is generally the case for me in getting longer distances.

post #13 of 17

You've taken off the long underwear after 90 days and the body is ripe to work.  Let the hips fly and watch the Prov1x, or any ball, zoom out past the canyon.

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You've taken off the long underwear after 90 days and the body is ripe to work.  Let the hips fly and watch the Prov1x, or any ball, zoom out past the canyon.


Sounds good joekelly!  And yeah, my old bones like the heat and humidity.  Always play better loose.

 

dave

post #15 of 17

Yeah, I've played the Taylormade Lethal, and the Titleist Prov1x, and I think the v1x was better by far. Most of the time I use Pinnacle Golds though. Seems to be a great ball for my game and cheap as well.

post #16 of 17

The only way to really know...for you is to hit two balls with the same club at the same hole...and hope you put the same swing on them...

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Originally Posted by inthecup View Post
 

I own a launch monitor.  I did a ball fitting on myself went and bought lots of sleeves of mid to high end balls.

 

Based on what I experienced as a 13 handicap golfer, a ball may change your spin a couple hundred RPM which is not going to do a lot.  And......they all go the same distance.

It is not magic, it is not technically difficult to bring a golf ball to the USGA limit.

 

I then picked a golf ball on price and how if feels and spins around the green.  I believe unless you are a low single digit or less it really is not going to matter.

Costco had a Callaway Hex Pro ball on sale, they were dumping their optic yellow balls at $15 a dozen.  They are a private label ball for Costco, 4 piece with a Urethane cover.

I bought a TON of balls.  I will be playing them for years.  On the rare occasion that I zing one in the lake at least it is not a $3+ ball. 

 

It is the Indian not the arrow!

THIS.....

 

 

The difference between the longest legal ball made and a tour caliber ball such as the ProV1 is only about 3-5 yards, the key differential between a ProV1 and basic golf ball is the spin rate when the ball is played for 135 yards and closer to the hole. The proV1 will spin much higher and grab.

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