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I am playing in a junior / senior foresome comp this weekend. I play off 10 and my 9 year old son plays off 40. The pair we are playing play off 7 and 22. How many shots will we get?

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Originally Posted by Jedward30

I am playing in a junior / senior foresome comp this weekend. I play off 10 and my 9 year old son plays off 40. The pair we are playing play off 7 and 22. How many shots will we get?

The way it should be done is the 7 plays scratch and everyone else gets the difference between their handicaps and his.  That means the 7 gets 0, you get 3, the 22 gets 15, and  your son gets 33.

This assumes that there is no percentage factor being used.  In such a match, it is common to only use 80% of course handicap, which would somewhat reduce what each player receives.

Stroke allocation is also dependent on whether it's a foursome as you say, or a fourball.  A foursome is a match where partners alternate shots - each team only plays one ball, partners taking turns playing.  A fourball is a format where each player plays his own ball, and team score is determined by what combination of balls the tournament rules require.

You should ask the competition committee to explain what their requirements are.

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Originally Posted by Fourputt

The way it should be done is the 7 plays scratch and everyone else gets the difference between their handicaps and his.  That means the 7 gets 0, you get 3, the 22 gets 15, and  your son gets 33.

This assumes that there is no percentage factor being used.  In such a match, it is common to only use 80% of course handicap, which would somewhat reduce what each player receives.

Stroke allocation is also dependent on whether it's a foursome as you say, or a fourball.  A foursome is a match where partners alternate shots - each team only plays one ball, partners taking turns playing.  A fourball is a format where each player plays his own ball, and team score is determined by what combination of balls the tournament rules require.

You should ask the competition committee to explain what their requirements are.

Very important point made in this post, as the stroke allocations can be very different.

If it is a true 'Foursome' (ie alternate strokes)

9 (vii) Foursome Match Play
In a foursome match, two play against two and each side plays one ball. In a foursome during any stipulated round the partners play alternately from the teeing grounds and alternately during the play of each hole ("The Rules of Golf," Definition of Foursome and Rule 29-1). After handicap allowances are determined, Section 9-3c(iii) must be applied in competitions from different tees, or in competitions between men and women from the same tees.

Allowance: The allowance for the higher-handicapped side is 50 percent of the difference between the combined Course Handicap of each side. (When selected drives are permitted, the allowance is 40 percent.) The lower handicapped side competes at scratch.

Example: Side A-B with a combined Course Handicap of 15 competes against side C-D with a combined Course Handicap of 36. The higher handicapped side, C-D, receives 11 strokes (36 - 15 = 21 x 50% = 10.5 rounded to 11). Strokes are taken as assigned on the players' respective stroke allocation table.

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Originally Posted by Fourputt

The way it should be done is the 7 plays scratch and everyone else gets the difference between their handicaps and his.  That means the 7 gets 0, you get 3, the 22 gets 15, and  your son gets 33.

This assumes that there is no percentage factor being used.  In such a match, it is common to only use 80% of course handicap, which would somewhat reduce what each player receives.

Stroke allocation is also dependent on whether it's a foursome as you say, or a fourball.  A foursome is a match where partners alternate shots - each team only plays one ball, partners taking turns playing.  A fourball is a format where each player plays his own ball, and team score is determined by what combination of balls the tournament rules require.

You should ask the competition committee to explain what their requirements are.

And FWIW, the foursome is a great format to ruin an otherwise great friendship with your partner!

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Originally Posted by David in FL

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Originally Posted by Fourputt

The way it should be done is the 7 plays scratch and everyone else gets the difference between their handicaps and his.  That means the 7 gets 0, you get 3, the 22 gets 15, and  your son gets 33.

This assumes that there is no percentage factor being used.  In such a match, it is common to only use 80% of course handicap, which would somewhat reduce what each player receives.

Stroke allocation is also dependent on whether it's a foursome as you say, or a fourball.  A foursome is a match where partners alternate shots - each team only plays one ball, partners taking turns playing.  A fourball is a format where each player plays his own ball, and team score is determined by what combination of balls the tournament rules require.

You should ask the competition committee to explain what their requirements are.

And FWIW, the foursome is a great format to ruin an otherwise great friendship with your partner!

Only if one or both take the game too seriously.  I like the challenge, although I'm never sure if my partner likes it quite as much as I do.

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