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It’s been 20 years since Tiger Woods won the first of three consecutive U.S. Amateurs. Back in 1994, he could top 130 mph of swing speed without trying. If today’s balls and clubs had been available when Tiger was in college, the 18-year-old Woods would have been 30 yards longer than Bubba is now. Tiger had a mega-wide, mega-long swing built more for a long-drive contest than a U.S. Open, but he tweaked it under Butch Harmon to create arguably the most effective motion in golf history.

The coaching switch in 2004 from Harmon to Hank Haney remains a mystery to me. Hank’s out-to-under swing looked good on Tiger (he won six majors with it) but not as good as Butch’s did. The Haney move led to more misses than Tiger was willing to accept.

So what was Woods doing differently with current coach Sean Foley before his season-interrupting back injury? Check his practice swing the next time he’s on TV. You’ll see Tiger swing back to the inside, then come over, or above, the plane on the way down -- sort of like Jim Furyk in reverse. Swinging inside-over this way forces you to aggressively clear your left side, which Tiger had a hard time doing with Haney. You’ll hit pushes and pulls when you fail to clear your left side, and Tiger missed it both ways under Hank’s tutelage.

Same old rhetoric. At least he is courteous enough to warn people who swing too far left not to use this move, though.

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I actually haven't seen Tiger make that "come over" practice move this year.

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I actually haven't seen Tiger make that "come over" practice move this year.

Ditto.

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I actually haven't seen Tiger make that "come over" practice move this year.

[quote name="iacas" url="/t/76174/johnny-miller-discusses-tigers-swing#post_1029432"] Ditto. [/quote]Are you suggesting that Johnny Miller - Golf Magazine contributor and NBC lead golf analyst, and master of the clubhead chasing the ball down the target line move - could possibly be wrong about the golf swing and/or using incorrect and obsolete information for swing analysis?

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Are you suggesting that Johnny Miller - Golf Magazine contributor and NBC lead golf analyst, and master of the clubhead chasing the ball down the target line move - could possibly be wrong about the golf swing and/or using incorrect and obsolete information for swing analysis?

Clearly you weren't there in Oakmont!

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Clearly you weren't there in Oakmont! :-P

In 1973?

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In 1973?

When he shot a 63?

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When he shot a 63?

Either way, I wasn't anywhere in 1973.

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Either way, I wasn't anywhere in 1973.

Me neither, I was still liquid in 1973.

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Me neither, I was still liquid in 1973.

Given how much you drink now, you could say you're still liquid in 2014.

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Given how much you drink now, you could say you're still liquid in 2014. :D

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.

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Clearly this thread didn't contribute much in the way of real content... :-)

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Clearly this thread didn't contribute much in the way of real content...

What I want to see… "Tiger discusses Johnny Miller's swing."

Or pants. Whichever.

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What I want to see… "Tiger discusses Johnny Miller's swing." Or pants. Whichever.

Or how about a TGC special where Tiger gets to wax philosophical about why Chamblee didn't win more than once. That would be awesome. :-P

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I remember Johnny's 63. TV coverage back then sucked. I want to say it was Chris Schenkel who announced.

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I like Johnny Miller as a commentator, but sometimes he just needs to move on.  If we had the video, we could probably track how Johnny's swing changed throughout his career.  They all think it was always the same, but that is a dubious assumption.

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I like Johnny Miller as a commentator, but sometimes he just needs to move on.  If we had the video, we could probably track how Johnny's swing changed throughout his career.  They all think it was always the same, but that is a dubious assumption.

I don't particularly like him much as a commentator either.

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What I want to see… "Tiger discusses Johnny Miller's swing."

Or pants. Whichever.


I just want to see that Shell's WWOG where an old Nicklaus schooled Miller on his home course...over and over and over.

He should remember that day before he decides to run his yap about someone hitting a piss-poor shot.

I was super excited to see NBC run out of US Open contract....until Fox dropped the name Buck.

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