Which I also view as bullshit and a huge violation of personal freedoms.
EDIT BY @jamo: This is an offshoot of the Dustin Johnson cocaine suspension thread. If you want to talk about drug policy, do it here.
Do you really think buying, selling and using coke is a Victim less crime...? Better think again my friend. People get Murdered over such things, people get robbed, people die from over doses
I think it's significantly different than an average workplace. For one, the PGA Tour is not paying him a salary and he is not their employee. If drug abuse is hurting his performance, it's only damaging himself. I don't blame the players for wanting to test for PEDs. I wouldn't want to feel pressured in a doping arms race. But recreational drugs? Who cares with a tour pro?
But if I'm running a company, I probably wouldn't want my CFO doing rails off strippers tits and having an addiction. It could seriously affect my bottom line.
It has more to do with the image of the organization than anything else. The conduct of a companies employees or an organizations members reflect upon the company or organization and if it puts them in a negative light then it is usually not good for the bottom line.
I dont particularly care either way about a person who uses recreational drugs and i dont think using drugs make someone a bad person but companies also have the freedom to decide what type of person works for them. if they decide that they dont want drug users to work for them then that is their right and if you disagree with them then you have the freedom to work somewhere else or not buy that companies products
People get killed over drugs because drugs are illegal. The same thing happened when alcohol was illegal in the 1920s. When people are running an illegal business, they resort to illegal means to protect their business. It's not as though they can take rival dealers to courts. The black market runs up prices, and rather than help addicts, we throw them in prison.
Also, alcohol and cigarette smoking kill far more people than cocaine every year. The dangers of illicit drugs like cocaine, heroin, and even crystal meth are constantly overhyped by law enforcement and public health types, because it helps their parasitic profession.
We're getting off topic here. But no, DJ blowing a few lines off Paulina's ass isn't victimizing anyone.
You need to read up on the sales of illegal drugs. My statement is in no way weak. Your view on the subject is blind. In case some of you haven't noticed, drugs are Illegal to sell, possess and use.
If you condone the use, you are saying the Drug cartels are o.k. doing what they do. Like growing pot on Public land in our forest's and ruining the water ways, tossing tons of garbage and destroying the land. If that's o.k. with you, then you have issues.
I don't think that Hammer4's point is weak- just the opposite in fact. Maybe the end recreational user believes they aren't hurting anyone, except themselves, but there is a lot of bad stuff happening when the bad guys battle over territory so that they can control the distribution and sale of illegal drugs. I think it's pretty naive to think drug use is a victimless crime.
So, you think that coke and other drugs are O.K. then..? Then you would have no problem if your kids used coke now and then.? No, it's Not just the War on drugs, Legalize coke...geese, that's sad.
I'm done, already Way OT..
though the war on drugs is certainly causing a lot of the violence surrounding drugs i think you are discounting the potential problems that would follow a complete legalization of drugs by making them more available and more widely used. though alcohol is now legal there are still a ton of issues surrounding it like alcoholism, and drunk driving that are killing quite a lot of people each year and driving up the cost of healthcare. Legalizing drugs would most likely have a similar effect across the country and i see it as a simple calculation...are the deaths/costs associated with the war on drugs less than the deaths/costs of legalizing the drugs
I was obviously referring things such as gangland style shootings over drug turf.
Let me know if you need me to hold your hand through any any other posts.