Originally Posted by imsys0042
Originally Posted by Zeph
At handicap 10, you are probably not the group of golfers the relaxed rules are aimed at. Someone shooting in the 100's+ will probably not score all that much better with more clubs.
But I'd be an 8 if had that extra club! Seriously though, I think they should give 15 clubs a look since a lot of changes to iron and wedge sets have happened in the past 20 years. I do agree that if you are playing well you are fine with less. I'm OCD enough to want a "complete" set and I think newer players would benefit in some way (well I know someone like my father-in-law would)
You say that as if there were never any equipment improvements until the 1990's. Clubs and balls have been undergoing evolution for more than 100 years. It was changes in club technology back in the 1920's that spurred the limit of 14 clubs to be put in the rules. It idea was to keep skill in the game, to require the player to develop skill with his swing, not just the ability to pick a club.
More clubs for beginners just makes their decisions slower and more complicated. Players should start with fewer clubs and work up to the max of 14. These so-called "rules" aren't really for experienced players. They are aimed at trying to make the game more attractive for beginners, so lets really hit at the heart of the matter.
Make golf cheaper and you will attract new players to the game. New players don't give a damn about rules - not the real rules and not these unworkable , butchered up "rules". New players care about cost and time spent playing. That actually means shorter courses, and equipment to match. Shorter courses means lower taxes, lower maintenance costs, shorter rounds (it takes less time to walk a shorter distance).
Stop me if I'm wrong, but aren't the "ideas" on that list all things that beginners already do, without needing to feel secure that they are following a rule? In fact isn't it more likely to confuse or disillusion a player who carries these "rules" around with him, then gets told regularly that he's not actually playing by the rules? Or he enters a small competition that asks for his handicap and he gives them an estimate based on his play by those rules, but this tournament plays by the real rules, and he shoots 20 strokes over what he thought was his handicap because he incurs a 2 stroke penalty every time he uses "common sense".
And just what is "common sense" anyway. Different people are imbued with widely varying levels of the sort of logical behavior we call common sense. It certainly has nothing to do with golf. A typical beginner won't have a clue how to apply common sense to golf, and it certainly won't be applied the same by different players. I envision a lot of on course discussions and arguments over the "common sense" procedures for a dozen different common situations, and that will just make them play slower than they already do.
I suggest that we put the beginning player on a shorter course (either a shorter layout, or the forward tees on a regular course), give him six or seven clubs, a dozen balls and a handful of tees. Give him a very basic idea of what his goals should be, then tell him not to worry about rules until he gets more of a handle on moving the ball in the intended direction. He can pick up the rules like most of us did, a little bit here and there, and if he decides that the game is what he wants to get into, he can get the book and start to really learn the rules when they will make a bit more sense to him.
Anyway you look at it, I'm opposed to telling anyone that that ridiculous list is anything resembling a set of rules.