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Has anyone heard of this vision problem?  If I'm looking at a horizontal line, like the top of my TV set or the top of a bookcase, my dominant eye sees it as sloping down to the left approximately at a three degree slope.

When I look at a green that has no side to side slope, I see it sloping down to the left.  If the green slopes down left to right by less than three degrees, I see it sloping down right to left.

I can't be lazy and read the green from just behind the ball.  I also  have to look at the green from behind the cup and compare the side to side slope with what I saw from behind the ball.  If it slopes left to right from behind the ball by around three degrees and right to left from being the cup by around three degrees, I conclude that there is no slope.

If I conclude that there is a side to side slope, I then have to select my arc on an imaginary slope that isn't what my eyes see.  So, I'm guessing more than reading.  Makes putting complicated.  I don't know if there is a treatment that can fix this problem.

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Has anyone heard of this vision problem?  If I'm looking at a horizontal line, like the top of my TV set or the top of a bookcase, my dominant eye sees it as sloping down to the left approximately at a three degree slope.

When I look at a green that has no side to side slope, I see it sloping down to the left.  If the green slopes down left to right by less than three degrees, I see it sloping down right to left.

I can't be lazy and read the green from just behind the ball.  I also  have to look at the green from behind the cup and compare the side to side slope with what I saw from behind the ball.  If it slopes left to right from behind the ball by around three degrees and right to left from being the cup by around three degrees, I conclude that there is no slope.

If I conclude that there is a side to side slope, I then have to select my arc on an imaginary slope that isn't what my eyes see.  So, I'm guessing more than reading.  Makes putting complicated.  I don't know if there is a treatment that can fix this problem.

Don't use your eyes to read the putt.  Use your feet. Try the AimPoint method.  Good green designers put optical illusions around the green to deceive the eyes.  They will shape the green to appear to slope opposite of the actual direction by not giving the player a horizontal line to compare against.

In using your feet you eliminate the illusion.

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Thank you for replying and for the suggestion.  I have been using my feet to sense the tilting of the green, but

it never occurred to me to develop the finer sense of differentiating between different levels of slopes.  You

made me realize that the ability of the feet to feel different slopes is an alternative to using the eyes to do

the same.  I hope I have talented feet.

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Thank you for replying and for the suggestion.  I have been using my feet to sense the tilting of the green, but

it never occurred to me to develop the finer sense of differentiating between different levels of slopes.  You

made me realize that the ability of the feet to feel different slopes is an alternative to using the eyes to do

the same.  I hope I have talented feet.

i dont have talented feet, but i have used the concept of judging slope with my feet -without the AimPoint method, just using my feet to determine if it slopes one way or the other.  i havent squatted down behind a ball to "see" the slope in 2 years.

Colin P.

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Colin007, is there an easy way to translate how much slope your feet tell you into estimating how much the ball will break?  I have been trying to find the apex, but I don't know if I can do that from the information I get from my feet.

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Colin007, is there an easy way to translate how much slope your feet tell you into estimating how much the ball will break?  I have been trying to find the apex, but I don't know if I can do that from the information I get from my feet.


Do not find the apex. The ball is breaking a LOT before it gets to the apex.

The easiest way is to take an AimPoint class.

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Colin007, is there an easy way to translate how much slope your feet tell you into estimating how much the ball will break?  I have been trying to find the apex, but I don't know if I can do that from the information I get from my feet.

yeah, its called AimPoint.  i havent used it, but smarter people than me have used it and swear by it, people whose opinions i value.  ive just learned how to use my feet as a rough estimate.

Do not find the apex. The ball is breaking a LOT before it gets to the apex.

The easiest way is to take an AimPoint class.

this is someone to whose opinion i would listen.

Colin P.

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I went to a specialist and found out why images seen by my dominant eye are tilted down to the left.  Due to

weakening of the eye muscles, my right eye has rotated slightly.  This is why a perfectly horizontal green

looks like it is tilted down to the left.

Just the other day, I found out another vision problem that this rotation of the dominant eye causes.  When I

line up a putt from behind the ball and pick a spot around 12" ahead of the ball and then take my stance with

my eye line parallel to the putting line, the line looks like it is going left of the target.  That's because I'm looking

downward, and any line that is parallel to my eye line will be seen to be shifted counterclockwise.  Previously,

I was susceptible to re-assessing my line and moving it to the right.

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Learning to read with your feet will pay immediate dividends even without Aimpoint training, you'll never be fooled again. Add Aimpoint training and you will be deadly.

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Learning to read with your feet will pay immediate dividends even without Aimpoint training, you'll never be fooled again. Add Aimpoint training and you will be deadly.

It seems that it might be worthwhile to attend and Aimpoint clinic and try to have a personal conversation with the staff to see how their methods work out for someone with my particular vision problem.  I find that I can sense the direction of the slope of the green with my feet, but I can't determine the amount of the slope, which makes it difficult to determine how much it will break.  Thanks for the suggestions.

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