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Gidday everyone,

I have a set of g20's and my drivers are Ping anser's which I love but, my i20 hybrid and I have a love-hate relationship. I love the piercing ball flight but can't hit it consistently. This has resulted in an old favorite (TM Burner Ti 5wood) finding its way into my bag in recent weeks. I love the security of the deep face and the higher ball flight on approach but it is a 20 year old club and i was thinking of trading in the i20 for something similar. However, many of the new fairway woods have a wider head and shallower face making them perfect of the tee but not as easy off the deck. So, what do you think? which is the best fairway wood from the fairway?

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I am a huge fan of the callaway x hot and x2 hot lines of fairway woods and hybrids. I've probably had 10 different people try my 17* 4w and all of them have liked it. It's so easy it is to launch but it doesn't balloon. I had a g15 3w before that and it was a lot flatter trajectory. The X2 Hot is also very forgiving on toe and heel hits. Another bonus is they are a very good price since callaway has released 35 other lines of woods since the X2 Hot came out a year and a half ago. :)
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Gidday everyone,

I have a set of g20's and my drivers are Ping anser's which I love but, my i20 hybrid and I have a love-hate relationship. I love the piercing ball flight but can't hit it consistently. This has resulted in an old favorite (TM Burner Ti 5wood) finding its way into my bag in recent weeks. I love the security of the deep face and the higher ball flight on approach but it is a 20 year old club and i was thinking of trading in the i20 for something similar. However, many of the new fairway woods have a wider head and shallower face making them perfect of the tee but not as easy off the deck. So, what do you think? which is the best fairway wood from the fairway?

I like and use the Ping Tec TiSi fairway woods, (3, 5 and 7). I don't carry the 3 right now, but it's not going anywhere soon as I may be replacing my 4 iron with it. That would leave me a little bit bigger gap between the 7 wood and the 5 iron, but I'm not really consistent with the 4 iron, the 3 wood is great off a tee, sometimes as good as the driver on shorter hole.

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I am a huge fan of the callaway x hot and x2 hot lines of fairway woods and hybrids. I've probably had 10 different people try my 17* 4w and all of them have liked it. It's so easy it is to launch but it doesn't balloon. I had a g15 3w before that and it was a lot flatter trajectory. The X2 Hot is also very forgiving on toe and heel hits. Another bonus is they are a very good price since callaway has released 35 other lines of woods since the X2 Hot came out a year and a half ago. :)

Good post! 35 lines is about right. I like a 17 3w (bigger head) like my tm 3W High Loft. I think the reason why is downhill (really any variation) lies on a fairway make the extra loft useful and appropriate. Its never a problem if I am 5 or 10 yards shorter than the other guy when we are playing. In fact at least half the time I am where they are with a 15. I think this is somewhat shaft length related as my 3wHL is a little long.

Tom R.

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Good post! 35 lines is about right. I like a 17 3w (bigger head) like my tm 3W High Loft. I think the reason why is downhill (really any variation) lies on a fairway make the extra loft useful and appropriate. Its never a problem if I am 5 or 10 yards shorter than the other guy when we are playing. In fact at least half the time I am where they are with a 15. I think this is somewhat shaft length related as my 3wHL is a little long.

It took 5 years to knock my 17 degree 3W 2009 Cleveland launcher out of my bag. The club to do it was the 17 degree 4 wood Callaway X Hot. Off the deck is a breeze.

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Gidday everyone,

I have a set of g20's and my drivers are Ping anser's which I love but, my i20 hybrid and I have a love-hate relationship. I love the piercing ball flight but can't hit it consistently. This has resulted in an old favorite (TM Burner Ti 5wood) finding its way into my bag in recent weeks. I love the security of the deep face and the higher ball flight on approach but it is a 20 year old club and i was thinking of trading in the i20 for something similar. However, many of the new fairway woods have a wider head and shallower face making them perfect of the tee but not as easy off the deck. So, what do you think? which is the best fairway wood from the fairway?

A hybrid. I would look into some low lofted hybrids. I know a few companies make 16 or 17 degree hybrids. That is basically between a 3 and 5 wood.

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[QUOTE name="moe63" url="/t/78153/which-fairway-wood-is-best-of-the-deck#post_1075246"]   Gidday everyone, I have a set of g20's and my drivers are Ping anser's which I love but, my i20 hybrid and I have a love-hate relationship. I love the piercing ball flight but can't hit it consistently. This has resulted in an old favorite (TM Burner Ti 5wood) finding its way into my bag in recent weeks. I love the security of the deep face and the higher ball flight on approach but it is a 20 year old club and i was thinking of trading in the i20 for something similar. However, many of the new fairway woods have a wider head and shallower face making them perfect of the tee but not as easy off the deck. So, what do you think? which is the best fairway wood from the fairway? [/QUOTE] A hybrid. I would look into some low lofted hybrids. I know a few companies make 16 or 17 degree hybrids. That is basically between a 3 and 5 wood.

I have a 17 fw and a 17 hybrid. I like the spacing. I play the fw at 230 and the 17hy at 215 for the no english shots. The 17 hy is very good for correcting mistakes in my normally perfect game off the tee because its long, low, and short enough to get under a ball and get it elevating even if its under tree limbs.

Tom R.

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A fairway wood with a lower vertical center of gravity (VCOG) helps get the ball launched higher for the average golfer. Assuming you have no serious swing flaws, this would help you hit FW shots off the deck better.

The clubhead below has two possible VCOG points marked on it:

VCOG 1 will contribute to a hotter, lower launch with lower spin. Golfers with higher swing speed might benefit from this.

VCOG 2 will contribute to a higher launch with more spin. Among other things, the rearward position helps the club shaft bow forward more at impact, increasing launch angle. Also, players with average swingspeed need a launch with good spin to get the ball airborne enough to get decent distance. Hitting a FW on the launch monitor can tell you what shot trajectory you have.

(Note: Points 1 and 2 are not the only places designers could position VCOG.)

If you have trouble hitting a FW off the deck, here are two things to consider:

  • Look for clubs with lower profile (shallower face) clubheads. Lower profile generally corresponds with lower VCOG. This was the idea behind the original Adams Tight Lies that came on the scent in the 1990s.
  • Consider going with a 4W rather than a 3W. The extra couple of degrees of loft help with launch.

And, of course, make sure you have a shaft that fits your swing profile.

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Gidday everyone,

I have a set of g20's and my drivers are Ping anser's which I love but, my i20 hybrid and I have a love-hate relationship. I love the piercing ball flight but can't hit it consistently. This has resulted in an old favorite (TM Burner Ti 5wood) finding its way into my bag in recent weeks. I love the security of the deep face and the higher ball flight on approach but it is a 20 year old club and i was thinking of trading in the i20 for something similar.

I'm not a fan of PING hybrids. They don't look right and even the good shots feel kinda clunky.

I am a huge fan of the callaway x hot and x2 hot lines of fairway woods and hybrids. I've probably had 10 different people try my 17* 4w and all of them have liked it. It's so easy it is to launch but it doesn't balloon.

The Callaway fairway woods are the best out there IMO, X Hot or X2 Hot. Stupid easy to hit and like @Jakester23 said they don't balloon.

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I'm not a fan of PING hybrids. They don't look right and even the good shots feel kinda clunky.

The Callaway fairway woods are the best out there IMO, X Hot or X2 Hot. Stupid easy to hit and like @Jakester23 said they don't balloon.

Yeah, PING sucks. He he.

I'm thinking of getting an X-hot FW at some point. How big of a difference tech-wise between x-hot and x2 hot?

I looked at some FW at Golftown last week but all the shafts, even the "stiff" ones just seemed to be WAY too whippy. Even just waggling them in the air made them wobble around. Neither my Cleveland Launcher (stiff) nor my Nickent Hybrids (3h regular, 4h stiff) act that way, what's up with these whippy shafts? Is this a "new" thing?

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A fairway wood with a lower vertical center of gravity (VCOG) helps get the ball launched higher for the average golfer. Assuming you have no serious swing flaws, this would help you hit FW shots off the deck better. [SIZE=13px]The clubhead below has two possible VCOG points marked on it:[/SIZE] [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/106517/] [/URL] VCOG [COLOR=800000]1[/COLOR] will contribute to a hotter, lower launch with lower spin. Golfers with higher swing speed might benefit from this. VCOG [COLOR=800000] 2 [/COLOR] will contribute to a higher launch with more spin. Among other things, the rearward position helps the club shaft bow forward more at impact, increasing launch angle. Also, players with average swingspeed need a launch with good spin to get the ball airborne enough to get decent distance. Hitting a FW on the launch monitor can tell you what shot trajectory you have. (Note: Points 1 and 2 are not the only places designers could position VCOG.)  If you have trouble hitting a FW off the deck, here are two things to consider: [LIST] [*] Look for clubs with lower profile (shallower face) clubheads. Lower profile generally corresponds with lower VCOG. This was the idea behind the original Adams Tight Lies that came on the scent in the 1990s. [*] Consider going with a 4W rather than a 3W. The extra couple of degrees of loft help with launch. [/LIST] And, of course, make sure you have a shaft that fits your swing profile.

Wu i am not a fanboy but Geez dude you keep rollin into my scene. I have that head on a tm 3whl on a 1.8 torque mid bend 44 inch shaft V2 that will be bronzed and buried with me in my casket. Roll on. Respect.

Tom R.

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Yeah, PING sucks. He he. I'm thinking of getting an X-hot FW at some point. How big of a difference tech-wise between x-hot and x2 hot?  I looked at some FW at Golftown last week but all the shafts, even the "stiff" ones just seemed to be WAY too whippy. Even just waggling them in the air made them wobble around. Neither my Cleveland Launcher (stiff) nor my Nickent Hybrids (3h regular, 4h stiff) act that way, what's up with these whippy shafts? Is this a "new" thing?

IMO the only difference between the X hot and the X2 Hot is the way they look at address and the graphics on crown. Both are quality fairway woods. I'm not a big believer in shafts making a difference so I might not have the best option.

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I'm thinking of getting an X-hot FW at some point. How big of a difference tech-wise between x-hot and x2 hot?

I looked at some FW at Golftown last week but all the shafts, even the "stiff" ones just seemed to be WAY too whippy. Even just waggling them in the air made them wobble around. Neither my Cleveland Launcher (stiff) nor my Nickent Hybrids (3h regular, 4h stiff) act that way, what's up with these whippy shafts? Is this a "new" thing?

X Hot and X2 Hot are pretty darn similar. Not sure about the shaft being "whippy", hit a few shots with it and see how it feels.

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Well thankyou all for your input, it sounds like I need to go and hit the Callaway's. Meanwhile the Little BurnerTi keeps doin the job, much to the disgust of the pro who sold me the i20.It's much like its owner, a bit worn on the outside but surprisingly reliable and effective. I wonder if there are many people out there that have an old favourite in with there new set?

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If you have trouble hitting a FW off the deck, here are two things to consider:

Look for clubs with lower profile (shallower face) clubheads. Lower profile generally corresponds with lower VCOG. This was the idea behind the original Adams Tight Lies that came on the scent in the 1990s.

Consider going with a 4W rather than a 3W. The extra couple of degrees of loft help with launch.

And, of course, make sure you have a shaft that fits your swing profile.

I have a mid 90's Big Bertha 5W I bought used.  It seems fine off the tee, but off the deck it is hard to get up in the air.  I have a 3 hybrid that I seem to hit farther off the deck.  I've always wondered if it wasn't due to the lower profile of the hybrid, since I have a 7 wood that's also low profile that seems to really get balls up into the air.

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I have a mid 90's Big Bertha 5W I bought used.  It seems fine off the tee, but off the deck it is hard to get up in the air.  I have a 3 hybrid that I seem to hit farther off the deck.  I've always wondered if it wasn't due to the lower profile of the hybrid, since I have a 7 wood that's also low profile that seems to really get balls up into the air.

An original-era Big Bertha could have a fairly heavy graphite shaft, up to 90 grams. Also, what flex is the shaft? Heavy and stiff could make it harder to get clubhead speed which leads to better launch.

You might have someone check your set-up and swing to make sure you're coming into the ball OK.

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An original-era Big Bertha could have a fairly heavy graphite shaft, up to 90 grams. Also, what flex is the shaft? Heavy and stiff could make it harder to get clubhead speed which leads to better launch.

You might have someone check your set-up and swing to make sure you're coming into the ball OK.

It's regular flex.  I have a slower swing speed but senior/amateur flex hasn't felt right so far, the ball flight balloons up a bit and is more erratic than regular flex.  But maybe the Big Bertha's shaft is indeed too heavy.  It feels less whippy than my driver.

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