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I was at the range earlier today. Bought a large bucket and just started hitting balls. Probably took me hour and half to hit 80 balls using various clubs. While there I was in a conversation with the range instructor. The real one. We did not discuss my swing that much, just talked about golf stuff in general. He did like my swing though.

Part of our conversation was about rather a golfer while on the range could tell what kind of score they might card if they went and played the course. My opinion was, that yes the golfer could tell, with in a few strokes, what kind of score they would shoot based on how they did on the driving range. In my case I told him I would probably scare the heck out of a 79 based on how I was hitting my yardages, and my targets. He agreed.

As we parted ways we agreed to meet up tomorrow for a friendly round. He'll be spotting me 9 strokes, and of course the loser pays. Just hope my putting will be decent.

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Part of our conversation was about rather a golfer while on the range could tell what kind of score they might card if they went and played the course. My opinion was, that yes the golfer could tell, with in a few strokes, what kind of score they would shoot based on how they did on the driving range. In my case I told him I would probably scare the heck out of a 79 based on how I was hitting my yardages, and my targets. He agreed.

As we parted ways we agreed to meet up tomorrow for a friendly round. He'll be spotting me 9 strokes, and of course the loser pays. Just hope my putting will be decent.

I would disagree with that. I've had range sessions were I was very accurate and then lost it on the course very early and never got it back. I've had range sessions were I was topping the ball, and hitting chunks. Then I would go out and shoot pretty good.

For me, I just go to the range to warm up. I like to see what feels work for the shots I want to hit. I know I can wake up the next day and the same feels wouldn't product the same shot. Besides that, I don't take much from the range on how well I am going to play that day.

Long game is important in golf, but the pace of golf is totally different than a range session.

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Someone who presumably knows a lot about golf, and the swing, watches you for well over an hour, compliments your swing, and then proposes a match and bet? Uh oh.... ;-) To answer the question though, all I get from my warm up is a general feel for how I'm feeling physically. Any soreness or stiffness that might affect my game. Other than that, I just haven't found a lot of correlation between how I hit 20 or so warm up balls and my actual play for the day.

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Part of our conversation was about rather a golfer while on the range could tell what kind of score they might card if they went and played the course. My opinion was, that yes the golfer could tell, with in a few strokes, what kind of score they would shoot based on how they did on the driving range. In my case I told him I would probably scare the heck out of a 79 based on how I was hitting my yardages, and my targets. He agreed.

As we parted ways we agreed to meet up tomorrow for a friendly round. He'll be spotting me 9 strokes, and of course the loser pays. Just hope my putting will be decent.

I would disagree with that. I've had range sessions were I was very accurate and then lost it on the course very early and never got it back. I've had range sessions were I was topping the ball, and hitting chunks. Then I would go out and shoot pretty good.

For me, I just go to the range to warm up. I like to see what feels work for the shots I want to hit. I know I can wake up the next day and the same feels wouldn't product the same shot. Besides that, I don't take much from the range on how well I am going to play that day.

Long game is important in golf, but the pace of golf is totally different than a range session.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Been there done that. It's been my experience too many times that if I am hitting poor shots on the range, I will most likely hit poor shots on the course. Of course the other side is true for me also. If I am hitting good shots on the range, those good shots will most likely carry over to my course play. This is especially true when I am going to play a round immediately after a range session. I think the difference for me might be that I don't hit range balls as fast as I can. I take my time on the range while working on different things. Most of the time I don't finish off a full bucket of balls. Today was a different day. I just wanted to bang balls.Granted situations will be different on the course than on the range, but the ball striking will most likely be the same.

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We'll have to agree to disagree. Been there done that. It's been my experience too many times that if I am hitting poor shots on the range, I will most likely hit poor shots on the course. Of course the other side is true for me also. If I am hitting good shots on the range, those good shots will most likely carry over to my course play. This is especially true when I am going to play a round immediately after a range session. I think the difference for me might be that I don't hit range balls as fast as I can. I take my time on the range while working on different things. Most of the time I don't finish off a full bucket of balls. Today was a different day. I just wanted to bang balls.Granted situations will be different on the course than on the range, but the ball striking will most likely be the same.

This is pretty rare.

My range performance is almost always better than anything I hit on the course, after warming up with a few balls. For instance, I warm up with the small clubs all the way to the driver. Once I have hit the driver, I am pretty limbered up. In this condition, there is no way I could hit better on the course. I don't even bother to take swing videos on the range anymore, because it is not at all representative of how I swing on the course.

I know a lot low handicaps, and if someone comments that they are hitting great they'll always respond with something like "A perfect lie, lies". They pretty much use the range to warm up or to work on specific things. Other than that, they can't tell anything about how well they will play based upon range performance.

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We'll have to agree to disagree.

You can, I wont :-P

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For me, how I hit the ball on the range just before I play definitely indicates how I will play that day. A couple of years ago in a tourney, during my normal warm up, I found something and knew I was going to win that day and I did. I commented to my son-in-law earlier this year that I was going to score well that day based on how I was hitting the ball. Shot my best round of the year.

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To answer the question though, all I get from my warm up is a general feel for how I'm feeling physically. Any soreness or stiffness that might affect my game. Other than that, I just haven't found a lot of correlation between how I hit 20 or so warm up balls and my actual play for the day.

Same for me, "hitting" the ball is just one part of scoring, how I hit the ball on the range the day before or during warm up just before the round give me very little indication of what score I will have at the end of the day.

Craig 

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To answer the question though, all I get from my warm up is a general feel for how I'm feeling physically. Any soreness or stiffness that might affect my game. Other than that, I just haven't found a lot of correlation between how I hit 20 or so warm up balls and my actual play for the day.

Same for me, I have found little correlation between how I hit balls on the range the day before or in warming up just before the round as to what I might score for the round.

Craig 

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I think that it may depend on how consistent your swing is in general.

For you people with a well-honed golf swing, I suppose the range might be a real indicator for you, but probably a lot less so for the rest of us.Us high-handicappers, can crush one down the middle on one swing and park the next in a cornfield. Other than any mental baggage I may hang on myself, range sessions do nothing other than warm me up. For instance, I went to the range on Saturday and hit a maddening dose of hooks. Got to the course on Sunday and that hook was not in evidence.

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I think that it may depend on how consistent your swing is in general.

For you people with a well-honed golf swing, I suppose the range might be a real indicator for you, but probably a lot less so for the rest of us.Us high-handicappers, can crush one down the middle on one swing and park the next in a cornfield. Other than any mental baggage I may hang on myself, range sessions do nothing other than warm me up. For instance, I went to the range on Saturday and hit a maddening dose of hooks. Got to the course on Sunday and that hook was not in evidence.

The desired performance is relative to your handicap, so it doesn't really matter what is your actual handicap.

Hitting on the range is great for working on different things and warmup. Beyond this, it is really hard to predict your performance on the course by how well you can hit the ball on a nearly perfect lie or a mat.

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