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There are many drills advertised for every part of the golf swing.  Is it the backswing you are looking to improve?  There is a drill for that.  What about the downswing?  There is a drill for that.  Are you looking to improve lag?  Are you looking to improve your footwork?  Well, you get the picture.  Heck, every other thread about the golf swing in TST or even the members swing area talks about drills for different purposes.

The difference between the drills mentioned on TST and other websites is that the drills here are vetted and usually are are good for what is prescribed, but other sources not so much.  This is different than what is your favorite drill thread, as this will be used for anyone to just put a drill they read about and discuss what it is meant for, and is it spot on or are there reservations about it while giving a chance to the rest of the community to chime in on it, and for others who are looking for drills to be able to search and find the drill and what everyone has to say about it.

The format is not important as it can be an open one, but I think it is important for the poster to to do 2 things.  1) start the post with a clear and concise description of the drill they are posting to make it easier to search for others later on. 2) list exactly what Key they believe the drill is addressing.. if it is multiple key's at once they should list all of them.

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Bowed Left Foot Weight Forward

Key# 2

I thought this was an interesting drill that definitely addresses Key# 2 weight forward.

Basically you preset the weight forward with the emphasis on your left knee being outside of your left foot and a slight bow of the left foot.

In concept I can see why you would want to practice this to help with key# 2, it looks like this is trying to get you to work on the foot work right around where you are about to make impact and thereafter.  So, the initiation of the downswing is putting the pressure on the instep of the left foot and then by the time you get to impact to have that weight transferring almost in its entirety to the left instep of the foot.

What do you guys think?  I know there is a drill that Erik has where you preset the weight on the left side with hips in impact position already, but the difference here is the emphasis on the left instep of the foot.. thoughts?

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Bowed Left Foot Weight Forward

Key# 2

I thought this was an interesting drill that definitely addresses Key# 2 weight forward.

Basically you preset the weight forward with the emphasis on your left knee being outside of your left foot and a slight bow of the left foot.

In concept I can see why you would want to practice this to help with key# 2, it looks like this is trying to get you to work on the foot work right around where you are about to make impact and thereafter.  So, the initiation of the downswing is putting the pressure on the instep of the left foot and then by the time you get to impact to have that weight transferring almost in its entirety to the left instep of the foot.

What do you guys think?  I know there is a drill that Erik has where you preset the weight on the left side with hips in impact position already, but the difference here is the emphasis on the left instep of the foot.. thoughts?

I think that's a good drill, very similar to what I do to warm up (or reset if things go south during a practice session). I'll take the club to A4 and slowly bring it down to A6 concentrating on increasing pressure into my lead foot. The increase in pressure is achieved by pressing the hips forward and pushing the knee out, but the main feel for me is just pressing down hard with my lead foot. Once I get to A6 I'll pump it once or twice and then turn as fast as hard as I can trying to get my hips to be more open by impact. I can hit the ball surprisingly far with this drill, and I'm kinda trying to build that drill up into a full swing because I really get great contact and pretty push draw with it. Probably getting close to 80% distance with this once I'm warmed up.

EDIT* Just wanted to point out that you want to get your weight on the outside of your lead foot, not the instep . For some players the lead foot will actually roll onto the outstep.

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Bowed Left Foot Weight Forward  Key# 2

What he's trying to demonstrate will be easier if that front foot was flared more.

Bill

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I like the idea of putting yourself in that position to get what it's supposed to feel like and using shorter swings until you start having a better sense of what it takes to get to that position.

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Bowed Left Foot Weight Forward  Key# 2 I thought this was an interesting drill that definitely addresses Key# 2 weight forward. Basically you preset the weight forward with the emphasis on your left knee being outside of your left foot and a slight bow of the left foot.   In concept I can see why you would want to practice this to help with key# 2, it looks like this is trying to get you to work on the foot work right around where you are about to make impact and thereafter.  So, the initiation of the downswing is putting the pressure on the instep of the left foot and then by the time you get to impact to have that weight transferring almost in its entirety to the left instep of the foot. What do you guys think?  I know there is a drill that Erik has where you preset the weight on the left side with hips in impact position already, but the difference here is the emphasis on the left instep of the foot.. thoughts?

I think it looks similar to Dave's "roll those ankles" key 2 video.

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Hip Bump / Hip Slide Drill for Key# 2

I find it very hard understanding the definition of hip slip or bump because I feel there is a different between front of the hip bone and the back of the hip bone.. I feel like I have always bumped or slid forward getting the front of my hip bone to go into the stick, while it seems most pro's and even the drill above is taking the back of the hipbone almost the side of the cheek into the stick.. either way, this seems like a very good exercise to help isolate the hip movement in the downswing.

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Hip slide has kind of a negative sound to me because it is used as sliding the hips in the wrong direction on the back swing. What they're talking about is clearing the hips on the downswing. These are good drills, and they go back decades.

I know if I don't clear my hips at the start of my downswing, and instead start it with my right arm (bad habit) that I will hit the ball thin or, if it is with a driver, I will hit it hard but the ball will drop at about 150 yds and roll. It messes with the angle of attack on the ball with a driver, and is a power robber. When I clear my hips first, my tempo is on, I make solid contact, and the ball flies true and far.

This move requires timing and repetition so it becomes a habit.

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Hip slide has kind of a negative sound to me because it is used as sliding the hips in the wrong direction on the back swing. What they're talking about is clearing the hips on the downswing. These are good drills, and they go back decades.

I agree about the vocabulary being ambiguous in golf instruction. I always thought of lateral hip movement in the backswing as a sway and in the downswing as a slide. Clearing the hips too often has people thinking rotate the hips out of the way.

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Hand path drill, Key#4 This made a lot of sense and it goes hand in hand with what I'm trying to do to get my hands down faster.. Anyone have any thoughts? [video]http://youtu.be/jlxqjavxdjA[\video]

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Hand path drill, Key#4

This made a lot of sense and it goes hand in hand with what I'm trying to do to get my hands down faster..

Anyone have any thoughts?

Too simple; he's pretty much saying you swing on plane by just doing it, which is all well and fine if you have a sound swing to begin with. He doesn't address the fact that a lot of golfers swing OTT because their A4 needs work.

Bill

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Too simple; he's pretty much saying you swing on plane by just doing it, which is all well and fine if you have a sound swing to begin with. He doesn't address the fact that a lot of golfers swing OTT because their A4 needs work.

True, but look at it from the perspective of someone who's priority piece is laying down from A4?  I don't see a difference between that and between some of the drills I'm given like "Lay the shaft down" from A4 or "feel like your hands are coming down before swinging out" (which by the way are also not going to work for someone who has trouble getting to A4) right?

I liked the advice because I saw instant results with my mirror work in terms of where the shaft was going from A4 to A6 while I was "feeling" that my hands were going towards the ball basically as he explained.  In the end it is all about getting the right feel and getting the idea across in simple terms is important.

I agree with you from the perspective of what the video is called, which is stop coming over the top.  It should be called how to work on getting the club shallow from top of the backswing maybe?

What do you think?

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True, but look at it from the perspective of someone who's priority piece is laying down from A4?  I don't see a difference between that and between some of the drills I'm given like "Lay the shaft down" from A4 or "feel like your hands are coming down before swinging out" (which by the way are also not going to work for someone who has trouble getting to A4) right? I liked the advice because I saw instant results with my mirror work in terms of where the shaft was going from A4 to A6 while I was "feeling" that my hands were going towards the ball basically as he explained.  In the end it is all about getting the right feel and getting the idea across in simple terms is important. I agree with you from the perspective of what the video is called, which is stop coming over the top.  It should be called how to work on getting the club shallow from top of the backswing maybe? What do you think?

I can elaborate if you'd like, but it's here: [URL]http://thesandtrap.com/t/78555/a6-compensations-and-understanding-the-past-and-the-future[/URL]

Bill

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I can elaborate if you'd like, but it's here: http://thesandtrap.com/t/78555/a6-compensations-and-understanding-the-past-and-the-future

Na, that's fine.  we are just looking at this differently that's all.. I am looking at it from the stand point of how this thought or feeling can help someone work on shallowing the club from A4.. something that I have been personally struggling with over the past few months with Brian..  (well I have been struggling with it forever, but it is my main priority piece right now)

The video helped me understand more of what Brian has been trying to get me to do, and it might not help anyone else as we are all different in how we understand feels.

Thanks for the feedback though.

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