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So I've started some online lessons (evolvr) and I've been working on my pivot and subsequently my hands staying forward.  Half swings/chips is all... trying to have my pivot really drive my arms and not flip.  I'm stuck.

It's better but not better/better.  1/2 the time it's clean and compressed.  1/2 the time it's still fat.  Is it possible my hands just need to be educated longer?  My finish seems like the left wrist is flat but I could be wrong (I'll have some video for the lesson next week).  My belt buckle seems pointed to the target before impact with my butt tucked... but still fat 50% of the time.

I'm posting to see if there are any other reasons for the fatness.  I don't want be practicing the wrong way.  If it's just more practice to get my hands used to the feel and more "solid" (although not forced)... I'll keep on chuggin.  Thanks!

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Since Xmas... I'm admittedly impatient

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So I've started some online lessons (evolvr) and I've been working on my pivot and subsequently my hands staying forward.  Half swings/chips is all... trying to have my pivot really drive my arms and not flip.  I'm stuck.

It's better but not better/better.  1/2 the time it's clean and compressed.  1/2 the time it's still fat.  Is it possible my hands just need to be educated longer?  My finish seems like the left wrist is flat but I could be wrong (I'll have some video for the lesson next week).  My belt buckle seems pointed to the target before impact with my butt tucked... but still fat 50% of the time.

Is the weight getting forward enough? Are the legs extending into the followthrough? Those would be two pieces I would look at.

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mvmac,

thank you.

i tried standing/jumping and right now it's just an odd feeling so i think it's going to take some time.  i have a setup in the garage to practice chips/short pitches so i'll be working on it.

i still feel though it's the arms/wrists.  if i hold on to the "lag" i sometimes feel temporarily like i'm hitting more solid/compressed (i know this is not the way to go).  but then i go back to slightly fat eventually.  if i just relax the arms/wrists and try to bring them along for the pivot ride... it feels great for a bit... but then back to fat.

i guess i'm just frustrated and am trying to figure out how long it's going to take to educate my hands OR am i missing something.

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Just to interject from a non pro. For me, it takes quite awhile to ingrain such things. One thing that I TRY to do is, when I do it right, and you know when you make good contact, is to try and repeat that move, that's why I practice a slow, deliberate pace, being old, I forget really fast..lol. So, when you make a good shot, don't waste a bunch time until the next one, but do it slowly. You'll get it. There are priority pieces I have been working on since the spring of last year, and it's beginning to pay off. Good luck, and stick with it.

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Did you post a new swing to your evolvr instructor and point out that you're having trouble with the drill?

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iacas,

I will... likely today or tomorrow... I'm just impatient... not a great golf temperament/trait to have.

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iacas, I will... likely today or tomorrow... I'm just impatient... not a great golf temperament/trait to have.

You say you've been doing the drill since Christmas? But what does that mean? What is your practice routine? I've been using evolvr for I think 4 months now. I usually upload once a month unless I have a question or don't understand so month or just want to make sure I'm on the right track. My practice routine when I get a new priority piece is, for a week or so (5 days for an hour during commercials), I do the drill very slow and deliberate until I feel like I know what it feels like, then for the next week I spied it up a little bit, and so on until I've done it for a month and then I go film some swings hitting balls and upload them to check my progress. I don't hit any balls right now unless I have to, it's to cold outside for me to hit balls and all I do is focus on where my body needs to be. All in front of a mirror. Changes take a long time, you won't make a permanent change in 2 weeks.

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I practice this drill every day. I hit 40 balls with this drill. I'm getting good contact with it now. I've been doing this drill since November. Yes, I fluff one every now and then. I'll shank one every now and then. But I go back to it. I know what i did and go back to what works immediately. You'll eventually get into a groove with the drill and it will become very relaxing. I love this drill. I'm lucky to be able to do this at a range where I can hit to a target 60 yds out and play a game to see how close to the pin I can land the ball. That is not easy to do, but it keeps it interesting.

You'll get this. Just keep at it. Think of it as fun.

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Posted this to evolvr today.  Thought I'd post here as well.  Thoughts good and bad are welcome.

Chip/pitch trying to get the pivot correct with the clubhead staying behind the hands.

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Grr,

So I finally figured out how to watch vids in slow motion on Youtube...

The pivot is still stalled!  My contact with the ball happens when my belt buckle is facing the ball.  I "thought" that my buckle was facing the target at impact... guess not.

So frustrating!!!

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Adams A4 7-PW

TM 56 and 60 Wedges

Yes Sophia Flat Stick

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Grr,

So I finally figured out how to watch vids in slow motion on Youtube...

The pivot is still stalled!  My contact with the ball happens when my belt buckle is facing the ball.  I "thought" that my buckle was facing the target at impact... guess not.

So frustrating!!!

Do share.

Julia

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FW: Cobra BiO CELL 14.5 degree; 
Hybrids: Cobra BiO CELL 22.5 degree Project X R-flex
Irons: Cobra BiO CELL 5 - GW Project X R-Flex
Wedges: Cobra BiO CELL SW, Fly-Z LW, 64* Callaway PM Grind.
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Adams A4 7-PW

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Yes Sophia Flat Stick

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