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So it was a great day out here in Ky, 59* out a rare day for January. Well so what do I do I go and practice with driver. Some shits would look like they were going to be nice shots and about a 100 yards out they would just drop straight down almost like they had top spin or something. What causes this, am I hitting to up on the ball?
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It's from flipping or turning your hands over before contact. Try aiming at a point more in front of the ball and swinging through it. The feeling that you are leaning a bit away from that spot in front of the ball, at contact, may also help.

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Yep on the range.

Maybe they are the limited flight range balls.

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Maybe they are the limited flight range balls.

I don't think that is it, not all the shots did that and I actually hit done good drives. I was using 2 different drivers a BombTech grenade and a Bio Cell+, the bombtech I really like and hit some real good shots with. The bio cell I just couldn't hit consistently good, with the stock red tie or a diamina shaft. And it was the one where shots would just take a dive. The range balls were wilson staff balls, and may be limited flight but some shots had a normal flight to them. It was also 59* so the balls were harder than range balls normally are.

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I'm not buying the temperature argument. It was 43 F here today. These balls have been in use since last summer and are dead as coffin nails. I hit some craptastic shots with my driver. It's not my driver. It's not the balls. It was all me. The woman next to me was bombing the same balls 220 carry. I hit a few. My back was bothering me. I was tired. It's not clubhead speed either. It's the way I was making contact with the ball. I pulled out my BioCell 5 wood and was getting 210 carry.

Drivers are the most difficult club in the bag to hit well. Slow down your swing tempo and stop trying to kill the ball and you should make better contact. The ball will go further.

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I'm not buying the temperature argument. It was 43 F here today. These balls have been in use since last summer and are dead as coffin nails. I hit some craptastic shots with my driver. It's not my driver. It's not the balls. It was all me. The woman next to me was bombing the same balls 220 carry. I hit a few. My back was bothering me. I was tired. It's not clubhead speed either. It's the way I was making contact with the ball. I pulled out my BioCell 5 wood and was getting 210 carry. Drivers are the most difficult club in the bag to hit well. Slow down your swing tempo and stop trying to kill the ball and you should make better contact. The ball will go further.

Well it probably was my swing but it was only with that one driver. The other I didn't really see that flight, I haven't hit my driver since September, and I have been making swing changes with evolvr all winter, which I am really seeing a different ball flight btw not 1 slice yesterday. Overall just curious what causes the ball to drop like that, I'm thinking the same thing that causes it to balloon just the opposite? After reading lsw my goal for the year is to improve with my driver and increase my distance this year.

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I've never seen a drive drop out at 100 yards, 59F should only lose 7 yards of carry. Could you be hitting with a severe negative AoA? Could be too far back in your stance?

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I have hit range balls that took a nose drive after several yards. I just chalked it up to worn out range balls. After getting whacked so many times they are so far out of balance there is no telling what they will do once they leave the club face. Think of it as hitting a ball with a big gob of mud stuck on it, only worse.

My wife has a rock tumbler she uses to to polish rocks. I put a golf ball in one with some abrasive material which wore down the dimples . I was just messing around. The ball came out like cue ball, I hit it with PW, and the distance was horrible. When I hit with my driver it acted like a bird chasing a bug in flight, and did'nt go very far at all. I offer this info because I have received range balls that had some of the dimples worn off, and were smooth in spots. I guess because of the ball washer. Those balls did everything but travel anywhere near straight.

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I have hit range balls that took a nose drive after several yards. I just chalked it up to worn out range balls. After getting whacked so many times they are so far out of balance there is no telling what they will do once they leave the club face. Think of it as hitting a ball with a big gob of mud stuck on it, only worse.   My wife has a rock tumbler she uses to to polish rocks. I put a golf ball in one with some abrasive material which wore down the dimples . I was just messing around. The ball came out like cue ball, I hit it with PW, and the distance was horrible. When I hit with my driver it acted like a bird chasing a bug in flight, and did'nt go very far at all. I offer this info because I have received range balls that had some of the dimples worn off, and were smooth in spots. I guess because of the ball washer. Those balls did everything but travel anywhere near straight.

Several yards? That's pretty tough. . .

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I've never seen a drive drop out at 100 yards, 59F should only lose 7 yards of carry. Could you be hitting with a severe negative AoA? Could be too far back in your stance?

I think maybe this is the answer, I think I am hitting down on the ball. This is something I'm trying to correct, but looking at the face of the club I'm hitting high on the face and towards the toe. The ball was in between my left heel and toe, but I'm still probably hitting down, I guess next time I hit my driver I need to record it. [quote name="Patch" url="/t/79325/dropping-ball-flight#post_1096147"]I have hit range balls that took a nose drive after several yards. I just chalked it up to worn out range balls. After getting whacked so many times they are so far out of balance there is no telling what they will do once they leave the club face. Think of it as hitting a ball with a big gob of mud stuck on it, only worse.   My wife has a rock tumbler she uses to to polish rocks. I put a golf ball in one with some abrasive material which wore down the dimples . I was just messing around. The ball came out like cue ball, I hit it with PW, and the distance was horrible. When I hit with my driver it acted like a bird chasing a bug in flight, and did'nt go very far at all. I offer this info because I have received range balls that had some of the dimples worn off, and were smooth in spots. I guess because of the ball washer. Those balls did everything but travel anywhere near straight.  [/quote] The range balls were pretty new and in good shape, this particular range replaces the balls once a year, but I'm not sure when they do it but they looked fairly new.

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Here's what I found out yesterday when I hit my few decent drives. Note that these were things I was not doing on the decent drives.

* I was playing the ball in the correct position.

* I forward pressed my driver - very bad idea.

* I was taking the club back too quickly in my back swing.

* The transition to my downswing wasn't smooth - it was driven with my shoulders and didn't start with my hip bump.

* Even though I was making solid contact, I wasn't getting sufficient loft and I wasn't putting sufficient backspin to get the ball up into the air.

Perhaps you were doing one of these things?

I slowed my tempo and remembered to drive through the ball, and did not forward press. When I had my tempo right for the club, with the hesitation at the top, I hit my normal carry distance.

Now occasionally there will be a ball that will behave erratically when hit with an iron. If for example when hitting an 8 iron, I see a ball with which I made solid contact fly up in a normal path then drop in a weird flight, it is probably the ball since that only happens once in a great while. I've seen gouges on some of the outer surfaces of the balls.

But I'm not kidding about the swing tempo. Each club in your bag has its own tempo. Your iron set is usually pretty well matched and each club should feel pretty close to the same, and you should practice with all of them. Your wedges will be the heaviest and have the slowest tempo. Your driver is different than any club in the bag

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Hybrids: Cobra BiO CELL 22.5 degree Project X R-flex
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Here's what I found out yesterday when I hit my few decent drives. Note that these were things I was not doing on the decent drives.

* I was playing the ball in the correct position.

* I forward pressed my driver - very bad idea.

* I was taking the club back too quickly in my back swing.

* The transition to my downswing wasn't smooth - it was driven with my shoulders and didn't start with my hip bump.

* Even though I was making solid contact, I wasn't getting sufficient loft and I wasn't putting sufficient backspin to get the ball up into the air.

Perhaps you were doing one of these things?

I slowed my tempo and remembered to drive through the ball, and did not forward press. When I had my tempo right for the club, with the hesitation at the top, I hit my normal carry distance.

Now occasionally there will be a ball that will behave erratically when hit with an iron. If for example when hitting an 8 iron, I see a ball with which I made solid contact fly up in a normal path then drop in a weird flight, it is probably the ball since that only happens once in a great while. I've seen gouges on some of the outer surfaces of the balls.

But I'm not kidding about the swing tempo. Each club in your bag has its own tempo. Your iron set is usually pretty well matched and each club should feel pretty close to the same, and you should practice with all of them. Your wedges will be the heaviest and have the slowest tempo. Your driver is different than any club in the bag

I think that may have been the difference between the 2 drivers, the bio cell+ is supposed to be a pretty low spinning head, and I definitely wasn't hitting up on the ball, which I need to work on, so maybe I wasn't getting enough spin. Bottom line is I need to work on my driver =)

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When I was fitted for my driver I could not hit the BioCell +. Well, I could hit it, but I was getting very poor loft with it.

I need to work on launch trajectory with my woods and driver. I start my iron back swing with a slight forward press like Snead suggested and it's about timing and rhythm, but the press carries over to my tee shots where it lowers the club loft, and that driver is low enough already.

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Hybrids: Cobra BiO CELL 22.5 degree Project X R-flex
Irons: Cobra BiO CELL 5 - GW Project X R-Flex
Wedges: Cobra BiO CELL SW, Fly-Z LW, 64* Callaway PM Grind.
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Probably the crap balls. Those things sit in mud, water, dirty bins, get pulled from the scrub surrounding the range and are subjected to thousands of hits in wide ranges of temps. When I go to the range I dump the bucket and sort the balls as I go. The scabby balls get chipped. The half decents balls I hit full swing short irons only. I pull all the brand name balls aside and hit those last with longer clubs. I can tell the difference. Even a Pinnacle feels better than a beat up made for the range ball. At a private course I go to they have Titleist practice balls and they carry about 15% shorter than a good ball, I take lessons there and use FlightScope.

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