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Thought I would share my experience of today trip to a pro tracer range. So you set up with your own iPhone and away you go... Seems fairly accurate. No idea how it works as there is no visible radar etc? Had a look at averages all my carry and total yardages.... if interested they are (totals) 5-213 yards 6-208 7-192 8-183 9-175 P-162 52 degree-138 Sw- 132 Driver- 285 I obviously soon realised I need a 48 degree wedge! Had a few 315 drives though which was worth the money! Definitely worth doing. Any views on how accurate these things are compared to trackman? RS
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Thought I would share my experience of today trip to a pro tracer range.

So you set up with your own iPhone and away you go... Seems fairly accurate. No idea how it works as there is no visible radar etc? Had a look at averages all my carry and total yardages.... if interested they are (totals)

5-213 yards

6-208

7-192

8-183

9-175

P-162

52 degree-138

Sw- 132

Driver- 285

I obviously soon realised I need a 48 degree wedge! Had a few 315 drives though which was worth the money!

Definitely worth doing. Any views on how accurate these things are compared to trackman?

RS

It looks like a 3D camera system? If so, I would think it could be more accurate, if the camera resolution is high enough, at tracking ball movement than a Doppler or CWFM (continuous wave frequency modulation) radar.

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Thought I would share my experience of today trip to a pro tracer range. So you set up with your own iPhone and away you go... Seems fairly accurate. No idea how it works as there is no visible radar etc? Had a look at averages all my carry and total yardages.... if interested they are (totals) 5-213 yards 6-208 7-192 8-183 9-175 P-162 52 degree-138 Sw- 132 Driver- 285 I obviously soon realised I need a 48 degree wedge! Had a few 315 drives though which was worth the money! Definitely worth doing. Any views on how accurate these things are compared to trackman? RS

Sounds intersting - where is that range located? Regarding your wedge situation: agree on your observation (gap wedge) and from my perspective you should consider bending sw (what is it, like 54?) and adding a lw (then at least 59) ... Grave

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It looks like a 3D camera system? If so, I would think it could be more accurate, if the camera resolution is high enough, at tracking ball movement than a Doppler or CWFM (continuous wave frequency modulation) radar.

Couldn't see camera so not sure. On the screen it looks like pro tracer you would see on TV

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Sounds intersting - where is that range located? Regarding your wedge situation: agree on your observation (gap wedge) and from my perspective you should consider bending sw (what is it, like 54?) and adding a lw (then at least 59) ... Grave

http://www.worldofgolf.co.uk/golf-centres/new-malden/protracer-new/ My sw is 56

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Sounds intersting - where is that range located?

Regarding your wedge situation: agree on your observation (gap wedge) and from my perspective you should consider bending sw (what is it, like 54?) and adding a lw (then at least 59) ...

Grave

http://www.worldofgolf.co.uk/golf-centres/new-malden/protracer-new/

My sw is 56



That's my local range. Great facilities, nice staff, excellent pro's.

I completely ignore the ProTracer distances truth be told as I'd much rather measure out my real distances on course or find them out on a real Trackman/GC2 device. ProTracer for me is about seeing my ball flight and curvature to understand what I changed in a certain swing. Unbelievably it's free to use too!

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Thought I would share my experience of today trip to a pro tracer range.

So you set up with your own iPhone and away you go... Seems fairly accurate. No idea how it works as there is no visible radar etc? Had a look at averages all my carry and total yardages.... if interested they are (totals)

5-213 yards

6-208

7-192

8-183

9-175

P-162

52 degree-138

Sw- 132

Driver- 285

I obviously soon realised I need a 48 degree wedge! Had a few 315 drives though which was worth the money!

Definitely worth doing. Any views on how accurate these things are compared to trackman?

RS

I would love to go to a Pro Tracer range, but those numbers look very suspicious to me.  You either have some crazy clubhead speed or you are seriously de-lofting your irons.  For example, you would need 130+mph clubhead speed on a PW for it to go 162 yds total at normal loft.  How in the world would you control the distance on shots less than 130 yds unless you are doing a ton of choking down and partial shots.  Also, 6 yds difference between your 52 and your 56 doesn't seem right.  Same with 5i-6i (5yds), 8i-9i (8yds).

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I would love to go to a Pro Tracer range, but those numbers look very suspicious to me.  You either have some crazy clubhead speed or you are seriously de-lofting your irons.  For example, you would need 130+mph clubhead speed on a PW for it to go 162 yds total at normal loft.  How in the world would you control the distance on shots less than 130 yds unless you are doing a ton of choking down and partial shots.  Also, 6 yds difference between your 52 and your 56 doesn't seem right.  Same with 5i-6i (5yds), 8i-9i (8yds).

I'm with you on the yardages, those are pro type distances, maybe some are even further.

-Jerry

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I would love to go to a Pro Tracer range, but those numbers look very suspicious to me.  You either have some crazy clubhead speed or you are seriously de-lofting your irons.  For example, you would need 130+mph clubhead speed on a PW for it to go 162 yds total at normal loft.  How in the world would you control the distance on shots less than 130 yds unless you are doing a ton of choking down and partial shots.  Also, 6 yds difference between your 52 and your 56 doesn't seem right.  Same with 5i-6i (5yds), 8i-9i (8yds).

Well I played today on course with a Garmin watch and the distances seem about right. Don't know about club head speed but the ball speed on the trackman for PW was 104 mph? As for the small differences between clubs I'm guessing that's just my inconsistencies

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Well I played today on course with a Garmin watch and the distances seem about right. Don't know about club head speed but the ball speed on the trackman for PW was 104 mph? As for the small differences between clubs I'm guessing that's just my inconsistencies

Your numbers seem off. [quote name="iacas" url="/t/32498/trackman-data-pga-tour-vs-lpga#post_414979"]Edit: [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/t/32498/trackman-data-pga-tour-vs-lpga/72#post_890442]Updated data.[/URL] ClSd - Clubhead Speed BlSd - Ball Speed AoA - Angle of Attack VLa - Vertical Launch Angle Spin - Spin Rate (total) MH - Maximum Height of Ball (yards) Carry - Carry (yards) [IMG]http://iacas.org/asm/fimgs/trackman_pga_vs_lpga_data.jpg[/IMG]  [/quote]

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Originally Posted by billchao

Your numbers seem off.

Looking at those figures it appears I deloft then as the launch angle is lower... Not something I intend to do. Need to do some reading up on that. Thanks


Plus, you get too little spin and too much roll on the scoring clubs.

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