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Perhaps I'm late to the party on this revelation but I'm watching the School of Golf right now and they had a section called "right or rubbish" with a  question regarding the club face vs club path being the primary influence on the starting path of the ball...

To my surprise, Martin identified the old school thought of club path being the main influence as "rubbish"... I say its a surprise because I previously thought he was an ambassador of the old ball flight laws...

Gotta say, I'm pleasantly surprised to see the "new" laws getting the main stream acceptance that it deserves.

I've thought this was a pretty good episode... anyone else watching?

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Martin has been on the correct side of the ball flight laws for a while now. I don't know if he was ever on the wrong side. He is/was a TGM guy and Homer talked about the ball starting perpendicular to the face. We know that's not 100% accurate but it's close ;-)

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Martin has been on the correct side of the ball flight laws for a while now. I don't know if he was ever on the wrong side. He is/was a TGM guy and Homer talked about the ball starting perpendicular to the face. We know that's not 100% accurate but it's close

Interesting... I don't know why I was of a different impression, but good to hear none-the-less

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I remember reading about ball flight rules on Trackman's site, and there was a profile about Martin Hall in the article after the article I was reading about straight shots. It is somewhat old (2009ish). Not sure the link below above the quote works, but if you google "Trackman Secret Straight Shot Martin Hall", you'll get the right link to the PDF with the two articles I'm talking about.

Here's a snippet.

Martin Hall

.... [cut out].....

This was interesting news for the experienced Hall, who then ordered a TrackManTM, but on the condition of having a 14 days re- turn option so he could evaluate the accuracy and usefulness of the club delivery data. After taking delivery of the system and training, and now nearing the end of the two weeks trial, Hall informed Matt he was not fully convinced of the system’s club delivery measure- ments because he was seeing too many face and path measure- ments being reported by TrackManTM that did not match ball flight. Martin returned the TrackManTMsystem and ISG feared this might be a lost opportunity.

However, Fredrik Tuxen, CTO at ISG and the inventor of Track- ManTM, understands the system’s accuracy and limitations, and had trouble accepting the claim that TrackManTM’s club path and face measurements were wrong because they weren’t matching ball flight! First hand, Fredrik spent an hour on the telephone trying to convince Martin of the fact that a ball hit with a Club Path of 0° and a Face Angle of 0° would not necessarily go straight as always believed in terms of the ‘old’ Ball Flight Laws.

Then Fredrik decided to go to Florida to visit Martin and give it a final chance, knowing that TrackManTM’s club path and face angle measurements are correct and that the days of the ‘old’ Ball Flight Laws are numbered.

During the late afternoon session that included Martin’s wife, La- dies European Tour professional Lisa Hall, Fredrik Tuxen managed to convince Martin about the accuracy of TrackManTM’s club deliv- ery measurements. And the session was a wake-up call for them both.

“Fredrik was able to tell us to within a quarter of an inch where Lisa was hitting the ball on the clubface. We sprayed the clubface and didn’t show it to him, but he could tell us from the TrackManTM data and ball flight the exact impact position. It was quite overwhelming, and I was turned over,” Martin Hall says.

“At first, Martin could not get the data to make sense in his under- standing of the effects of ‘a well hit shot’,” Fredrik Tuxen recalls.

Tuxen refers to Lisa Hall as a ‘human golf robot’. Her swing con- sistency is absolutely amazing, but from watching the club data on TrackManTM and comparing to the ball flight (also measured by TrackManTM), he was able to tell her and Martin that she was hitting the ball as little as ‘a dimple’ towards the heel. And he was right. For quite some time Martin was speechless wondering what he was witnessing. Then he very quietly in his typical British man- ner said: “I think you just sold me a system.”

.... [more]...

For the past two months Martin Hall has used TrackManTM as an integral part of his teaching and the results have been outstanding. He is still in a phase of learning all the benefits TrackManTM has to offer, but he has changed his beliefs about the ‘old’ Ball Flight Laws, and is now studying the new Ball Flight Laws where the Horizontal Launch Angle is 85 % determined by the Face angle and only 15 % by the club path, which near fully contradicts the “traditional” ball flight laws. '

.... [more]....

Interesting article actually, and your post reminded me of it.

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I remember reading about ball flight rules on Trackman's site, and there was a profile about Martin Hall in the article after the article I was reading about straight shots. It is somewhat old (2009ish). Not sure the link below above the quote works, but if you google "Trackman Secret Straight Shot Martin Hall", you'll get the right link to the PDF with the two articles I'm talking about.

Here's a snippet.

Interesting article actually, and your post reminded me of it.

great find...

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He discusses it a little in this video, starting around 2:07.

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