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What does your Game Golf (or similar device) says about your average distance? Is it different than what you thought?


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For those who have Game Golf (or similar device), what does it say about your average distance for each club?   There is an average distance thread already but golfer's definition of "average" seems to be different from one another.  I.e, some numbers are not believable.   Much appreciate the data for my and others amusement.

(  I will post mine when I get the device eventually - am working on convincing myself to get one.  )

RiCK

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Probably could have asked this in the GG thread :-) .

I don't have much posted for stats, I tossed anything early due to seasonal conditions and honestly still not that great here. Most were in my favor so wasn't tossing bad stuff but I didn't want to record the silly 240 yard 5 iron that hit a piece of ice , kicked forward and rolled much further than it should have on frozen, bare ground a month ago.  Likewise I hit a bunch of greens only to have the ball bound off for missed GIR because it was frozen and cart path hard. But I wasn't surprised to see I sucked much worse than I imagined relative to my FlightScope numbers, both distance and accuracy. Standing on the range calmly hitting balls under the watch of my instructor is an ideal situation. I should be able to share accurate data in a month or so as I post rounds in typical conditions.

GG averages shots based on what falls in the middle. Duh I know but by that I mean it seems to toss out the total duffs like the scabby 104 yard 4 iron and 8 iron chips around the green. When I mouse over the shots I do have in the middle it gives a true picture of how I perform. Considering most are some degree of mishit my averages are about 1.5 clubs shorter than a good to great strike potential. It gets worse as the clubs get longer, to about 2 clubs shorter. Basically my 6-5 and 4 iron (when I use it) are for all practical purposes the "same" club. Gaps are better and performance more consistent 7-PW. Wedge averages are useless because most of the time used very close to the green.

But yeah the what do you average posts are usually fantasy. Some of those posts are close to PGA Tour averages. If I averaged what some of those folks think they do I wouldn't be struggling to break 80. I average about 45 mishit shots a round. Add 30 putts to that and you get what I am saying. That leaves 5-7 good (potential) shots a round

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Dave :-)

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I find mine to be pretty accurate. I think the average may be a little low because it doesn't always account for punch or pitch out shots. So my 4 iron has a bunch of 100 yard shots that are me punching out of the trees. It sometimes ignores them, but sometimes not.

The driver also accounts for drives that hits trees. This means it brings the overall average down.

Still pretty accurate.

Michael

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For those punch shots with a long iron, can you "tag" a wedge and hit with the 4i to eliminate it from the distance calculation?     Generalizing this question, can you use a designated club (like LW) to tag and still hit with other clubs when hitting punch, chip, and other shots that can throw off distance calculation?

RiCK

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For those punch shots with a long iron, can you "tag" a wedge and hit with the 4i to eliminate it from the distance calculation?     Generalizing this question, can you use a designated club (like LW) to tag and still hit with other clubs when hitting punch, chip, and other shots that can throw off distance calculation?

You could but really no reason. Won't happen enough to change the numbers. You could go back in and edit the club as you edit the round but again not worth it and honestly you want to be able to remember the punch out. Chances are you'll be wedging out as much as punching out so better to be able to later view the rounds as they really happened.

This very thing happened to me last round I played. I skied a 5 wood from #1 tee that no kidding landed in a bunker next to #9 green. I had no shot at anything because it was a fluke shot, nobody should ever be there playing #1. I had to hit a typical bunker shot out because I was behind trees that line the edge of #1 fairway. Took two 5 irons to punch through them. I only hit one other 5 iron shot that day. My three 5 irons shots that day were 174 24 28 so the average for the round was funky. But the club performance total changed very little if any.

Dave :-)

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But yeah the what do you average posts are usually fantasy. Some of those posts are close to PGA Tour averages. If I averaged what some of those folks think they do I wouldn't be struggling to break 80. I average about 45 mishit shots a round. Add 30 putts to that and you get what I am saying. That leaves 5-7 good (potential) shots a round

For most of us I do not think average (mean) is a good guide to pulling a club precisely because of the dispersion we get because we suck (me much worse than you , judging by indexes).  I think that to really get any help in club selection you have to look at the distance dispersion and frequency, and I suspect if you slot the shots into, say, 5 yard ranges, you would want to pick your club as the the mode of that distribution, i.e., the range you hit that club most frequently.  That may not be the same as the average because mean is disproportionately affected by outliers.

As a player's index goes down and they (presumably) duff far fewer shots, average probably becomes a better guide.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

Rich - in name only

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Yes exactly. Looking at the GG graphs I can see my biggest miss is short at nearly every distance and as I get further way also right more than left. Have to get in the 100-125 range to tighten it up though 125-150 isn't horrible. Knowing that when I am on the course and I hit the flag with a laser and get 165 in my mind I think 155-165 is a well struck 8 iron but my GG average is 154 and quite a few on the short side of that. Before my choice would have been grab 8 and hope for the best. Now it's grab 7 and expect something less than perfect, GG 7 average is 167. It tends to improve the quality of the miss. Less likely to come up short and if it's missed GIR often pin high so easier to get up and down. So the averages are pretty close but more of a real world close.

Dave :-)

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This was my post on the " Average distances " thread, that I made shortly after I joined (April 11, 2011) ...

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Driver (9.5)     ...  270

3W    (15)      ...  240

Hyb   (18.25)  ... 220

3i      (22)      ...  210

4i      (25)      ...  200

5i      (28)      ...  190

6i      (31)      ...  176

7i      (35)      ...  165

8i      (39)      ...  154

9i      (43)      ...  142

PW   (47)      ...  130

SW   (56)      ...  105

Keep in mind that since then I've switched to newer irons that are basically a club longer from the 3i through the PW (and squeeze a gap wedge in there at 125-130).

My game golf "club performance" numbers are:

Driver:   264 -6

3W:       247 +7

Hyb:      217 -3

4:          212 +2

5:          177 -23

6:          182 -8

7:          178 +2

8:          164 -1

9:          146 -8

P:         143 +1

U:         120 -10

S:         110 +5

L:          104      N/A

Except for the 5 iron, I seem to be OK here. :)

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Except for the 5 iron, I seem to be OK here. :)

Good data, thanks!

What do you think is the culprit here?   Using 5i for chipping, e.g?

RiCK

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Good data, thanks!

What do you think is the culprit here?   Using 5i for chipping, e.g?

No, I think it's that I don't use my 5 iron very often, and when I do, I have a hard time hitting it.  And the only reason why the 4 iron isn't also jacked up is, I'm guessing, because I frequently use that one off the tee on short par 4's, and I don't have nearly as much trouble hitting it off the tee, for some reason.

At least that's my guess. :)

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For most of us I do not think average (mean) is a good guide to pulling a club precisely because of the dispersion we get because we suck (me much worse than you , judging by indexes).  I think that to really get any help in club selection you have to look at the distance dispersion and frequency, and I suspect if you slot the shots into, say, 5 yard ranges, you would want to pick your club as the the mode of that distribution, i.e., the range you hit that club most frequently.  That may not be the same as the average because mean is disproportionately affected by outliers.

For me, this would be "a" major reason for buying Game Golf.   I need accurate data (not my perception of what my shots are like) to rely on when picking up a club for certain distance.  That, of course, if I don't forget wind strength & direction.   I often don't account for that and when I do, I underestimate the wind factor typically by up to a club on strong windy day.

RiCK

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