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Rich Hunt makes some interesting points about the one hour lesson, slow motion learning and the difference between the range and the course. This was a good piece, imho. I need to stop being a range rat. Watch the video. It really drives home some interesting points regarding learning.

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I think this counters the idea of the 1 hour lesson model that most pros use today. Perhaps the 1-hour lesson model can work, but it has to be in conjunction with a series of lessons and the student has to focus solely on 1 or 2 things before the next lesson. That beats the idea of teaching a golfer one time, for 1-hour and expecting them to pick up everything in a week or two of hitting balls because simply put...it ain't happening.

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Rich Hunt makes some interesting points about the one hour lesson, slow motion learning and the difference between the range and the course. This was a good piece, imho. I need to stop being a range rat. Watch the video. I really drives home some interesting points regarding learning.

http://3jack.blogspot.com/2015/05/learning-to-ride-bike-and-learning.html

This was amazing.. so who ever faults me for not being able to start coming from inside path because my brain is wired to come OTT should take a look at this video and understand that even though I might be putting a lot of work into changing the path, I just need more TIME...  if only I was younger.. Also, what it teaches me is hey if this guy can do it, then eventually I will be able to do it too right?  Thanks for sharing!

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Just to emphasize why this thread is so important.

I would say the 2nd word, "Specific" is just as important or more so as "Slow" and "Short". This is why when changing the golf swing, being specific as possible is so important. Understanding what to work on and how those lead into progressive change that can really improve the golf swing is critical. I am not sure that a person can do that on the bike example.

Golf is kinda lucky that you don't have to balance yourself to learn a new movement. To rework the brain to think right is left and left is right, couple that with trying to train your brain how to rebalance is just a daunting task.

I did find it interesting that the kid got it in a fraction of the time compared to the adult.

Cool video though.

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I have to admit the first time I read "The five "S"s of great practice" I only half bought into the idea ... over the last couple of months I have become a believer ... the above video just drives the point home for me.

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Rich Hunt makes some interesting points about the difference between the range and the course. This was a good piece, imho. I need to stop being a range rat.

To this point, I think the problem isn't just in the different lies and obstacles one faces on the course, but simply because the shots count. On the range, when you work on your mechanics, you're ok with mis-hitting a shot, as long as you performed your changes properly. Even if you didn't perform properly, you can always just hit another ball and try again. You don't have that luxury on the course. You forced to be more results-oriented in terms of the target so you naturally revert to the movements that you are most familiar with and subconsciously, more comfortable with. This is why I like to work on mechanics on a net. I can practice on my piece without anything to distract me. Then for the range, I'm beginning to use it as target practice. As I've been told to do, I imagine golf holes in my head and "play golf" while keeping some kind of scoring system for my shots, while still being mindful of my mechanics, but the "score" comes first. I think that's a better way to translate your swing to the course. I still play roughly once a week or so, but I practice pretty much every day. The whole point is to make the changes as familiar as possible so they're automatic when I'm actually playing.

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This was amazing.. so who ever faults me for not being able to start coming from inside path because my brain is wired to come OTT should take a look at this video and understand that even though I might be putting a lot of work into changing the path, I just need more TIME...  if only I was younger.. Also, what it teaches me is hey if this guy can do it, then eventually I will be able to do it too right?  Thanks for sharing!

No offense, Eyad, but no. You practice rarely (maybe it's changed, I'm going off old info here) and the rare times you do practice it's in your house without a ball. You would not need as much time as you have needed thus far if you'd have practiced BETTER. Also, you wired your brain that way. :D

I would say the 2nd word, "Specific" is just as important or more so as "Slow" and "Short". This is why when changing the golf swing, being specific as possible is so important. Understanding what to work on and how those lead into progressive change that can really improve the golf swing is critical. I am not sure that a person can do that on the bike example.

Yes to this.

Generally, too: I don't know what one-hour lessons Richie's been seeing, but we absolutely strive to give our students the SINGLE one priority that they need right then, and try to make it very clear to them how to practice.

I have to admit the first time I read "The five "S"s of great practice" I only half bought into the idea ... over the last couple of months I have become a believer ... the above video just drives the point home for me.

We'll win everyone over eventually… ;-)

To this point, I think the problem isn't just in the different lies and obstacles one faces on the course, but simply because the shots count. On the range, when you work on your mechanics, you're ok with mis-hitting a shot, as long as you performed your changes properly. Even if you didn't perform properly, you can always just hit another ball and try again. You don't have that luxury on the course. You forced to be more results-oriented in terms of the target so you naturally revert to the movements that you are most familiar with and subconsciously, more comfortable with.

This is why I like to work on mechanics on a net. I can practice on my piece without anything to distract me. Then for the range, I'm beginning to use it as target practice.

As I've been told to do, I imagine golf holes in my head and "play golf" while keeping some kind of scoring system for my shots, while still being mindful of my mechanics, but the "score" comes first. I think that's a better way to translate your swing to the course.

I still play roughly once a week or so, but I practice pretty much every day. The whole point is to make the changes as familiar as possible so they're automatic when I'm actually playing.

That's good.

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No offense, Eyad, but no. You practice rarely (maybe it's changed, I'm going off old info here) and the rare times you do practice it's in your house without a ball. You would not need as much time as you have needed thus far if you'd have practiced BETTER. Also, you wired your brain that way. :D

None taken Erik.. I admit that I practice more at home than I do at the range, but it is always with a ball (plastic or foam depending on what's around), I have only ever shared the ones without the ball though.. I also do it on a daily basis! Besides, I have only been working on shallowing the path for about 1.5 years or something.. Others on this site have been at it for lot more.. It is not as easy a priority piece as you are making it sound IMO, other wise why is everyone struggling with it? One thing the video really hits home is how important it will be for me to teach my kids how to swing a golf club as soon as they show interest, especially if I don't want them going through what myself and others are going through.. For a lot of you who played when you were younger, it must be nice :)

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