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Hey guys, thinking about making the switch from my TM Rocketbladez to a less offset iron or none at all. My wedges aren't cavity back and have no offset and I hit them fine. Trying to avoid the dreaded left and thought getting irons with no offset or less would help. Any suggestions or experiences would be appreciated!
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Have you hit some irons with less offset recently? Did they start straighter?

Just trying to be helpful here but if you're hitting it as far left as you're alluding to, the problem probably isn't with a few degrees of offset. If you set the face to where you want the ball to start and it starts left of that, something with your swing caused that to happen. That problem will occur regardless of the amount of offset on your irons. Ball starts where the face is pointed and curves away from the path.

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Have you hit some irons with less offset recently? Did they start straighter?  Just trying to be helpful here but if you're hitting it as far left as you're alluding to, the problem probably isn't with a few degrees of offset. If you set the face to where you want the ball to start and it starts left of that, something with your swing caused that to happen. That problem will occur regardless of the amount of offset on your irons. Ball starts where the face is pointed and curves away from the path.

I've made a grip change that helps a lot, and its not as far left as i lead on. My wedges are straight with no offset but thought maybe bc of the higher lofts. My typical miss is about a 20 yard hook with irons. I'd like about a 5 yard turn. Thanks for chiming in! Assuming its not my swing, whats a good suggestion to start with if im going from a full cb?

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Oh[quote name="CaptHook" url="/t/82564/switcheroo-from-offset-irons#post_1153546"] I've made a grip change that helps a lot, and its not as far left as i lead on. My wedges are straight with no offset but thought maybe bc of the higher lofts. My typical miss is about a 20 yard hook with irons. I'd like about a 5 yard turn. Thanks for chiming in! Assuming its not my swing, whats a good suggestion to start with if im going from a full cb?[/quote] Oh and as soon as I can get off this ship, I'll post a video of my swing. I finally figured it out but our wifi is dreadfully slow out here
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I've made a grip change that helps a lot, and its not as far left as i lead on. My wedges are straight with no offset but thought maybe bc of the higher lofts. My typical miss is about a 20 yard hook with irons. I'd like about a 5 yard turn. Thanks for chiming in!

Are the shots starting left of your intended start line or are they starting online and hooking?

Assuming its not my swing, whats a good suggestion to start with if im going from a full cb?

Yeah the problem is the less offset you get the less forgiveness you get. Irons with less offset with some forgiveness are PING S55, Callaway Apex Pro, Titleist CB, Mizuno MP 64.

Or if you're fine spending the money you can get these Miuras with a straight neck

http://www.miuragolf.com/passingpoint-PP9003.asp

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Are the shots starting left of your intended start line or are they starting online and hooking? Yeah the problem is the less offset you get the less forgiveness you get. Irons with less offset with some forgiveness are PING S55, Callaway Apex Pro, Titleist CB, Mizuno MP 64. Or if you're fine spending the money you can get these Miuras with a straight neck [URL=http://www.miuragolf.com/passingpoint-PP9003.asp]http://www.miuragolf.com/passingpoint-PP9003.asp[/URL]

Less forgiveness is not an option : ) I want to drop my HC not increase it. My shots are starting online and going left. (Pull draw?) Some may start a little left and go left? I always aim right a little to play a draw though, so im sure a video would help us both. My eyea are not as trained as most on this aite though. From what i see on my video, i bob my head up and down a little. Maybe this could cause it?

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Less forgiveness is not an option : ) I want to drop my HC not increase it. My shots are starting online and going left. (Pull draw?) Some may start a little left and go left? I always aim right a little to play a draw though, so im sure a video would help us both.

Yeah you're not going to find a forgiving club with minimal offset. Pull draw would be if the ball is starting left of the target and/or your body lines and then curving more left.

Also maybe it's just something with those TaylorMade irons and it would be worth it to hit another club to see if it's any different.

My eyea are not as trained as most on this aite though. From what i see on my video, i bob my head up and down a little. Maybe this could cause it?

Could be a few reasons, I'll take a look when you start your swing thread.

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Yeah you're not going to find a forgiving club with minimal offset. Pull draw would be if the ball is starting left of the target and/or your body lines and then curving more left.  Could be a few reasons, I'll take a look when you start your swing thread. Swing video thread coming in t minus 14 days. Working away from home and golf course sucks!

Gotcha, thanks. Most likely wishful thinking that the tool could be the prob. Typical hack stuff u know lol Will have to try and let u know how it goes Swing video thread coming in t minus 14 days. Working away from home and golf course sucks!

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Oh lordy, assuming it is not my swing! Just admit you want blades and buy them and stop trying to justify it on some pseudo techno babble. It is not the offset that is making the ball hook 20 yards.

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I just got fitted to some JPX 850s and they seemed to have less offset than my burner plus irons. Not sure how the burner plus offset compares to rocketbladez though. You could give those a look, still plenty forgiving.

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Oh lordy, assuming it is not my swing! Just admit you want blades and buy them and stop trying to justify it on some pseudo techno babble. It is not the offset that is making the ball hook 20 yards.

Lol wish that were the case bc that would be the easy part. I thought it was a legit question. Ive come to learn that its a common misconception that offset causes hooks. Duly noted, but thanks for the encouragement ; )

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LOL, good luck in your search. There is plenty with more offset than your Rocketbladez in the market, unless you are well into a lower single digit handicap you probably don't really "need" more of a players club. Wanting is something else. I would have a look at Pings i25 for a blend of minimal offset and foregiveness

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LOL, good luck in your search. There is plenty with more offset than your Rocketbladez in the market, unless you are well into a lower single digit handicap you probably don't really "need" more of a players club. Wanting is something else. I would have a look at Pings i25 for a blend of minimal offset and foregiveness

Thanks bud, I'm gonna take the advice and work on my swing more. Always tempting to get a new "fix" purchase lol i like my irons and as a mid handicapper, can't afford less forgiveness.

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hooks are caused by path of the club through impact. the offset is there to allow you longer to get the face closed so you can start on line (most high handicappers don't get it closed or rather neutral before impact. you saying that they are starting online says that the offset it working as intended. the hook is you coming to shallow or an inside out path. that imparts spin on the ball.

think of a clock 12 o'clock is to the left of the ball and 6 o'clock to the right of the ball (both numbers are on target line, assuming you are a right handed golfer) your path is coming from 7 to 1 or even 8 to 2. ( I play a 7 to 1 to make the ball draw back in and have my face ever slightly open at impact)  if you want to keep some draw go from 6:30 to 12:30. there are tons of drills out there to help you work your swing path. I would look there before changing offsets if you start online. cheaper too. only thing the less offset would do would be to start you a bit more right (leaving the face open at impact for you but we are talking minimal change) longer the club more club path really seems to effect the shot.

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hooks are caused by path of the club through impact. the offset is there to allow you longer to get the face closed so you can start on line (most high handicappers don't get it closed or rather neutral before impact. you saying that they are starting online says that the offset it working as intended. the hook is you coming to shallow or an inside out path. that imparts spin on the ball.

Most golfers that fade or slice the ball already have a leftward pointed face at impact. Face is open to the path but left of the target or the body alignments.

The "more time to square the face" argument is a golf myth. Offset gets the golfer's hands a little more forward (which can help draw the ball or reduce the slice) and to help elevate the ball (CoG of clubhead is further back in relation to the shaft).

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My apologies, I was thinking square but saying closed. thank you for the correction.

I believe the rest is still valid, its a swing mechanic (path of club) rather then different clubs required.

club face =initial direction

club path = spin (hook/draw or fade/slice)

20 yard hook wont be fixed by changing from offset to no offset.

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Thanks for the help guys. I'm in Louisiana for business again, and found a random golf range. The Pro was giving lessons in the next bay, and so I thought, what the heck. May as well work on something instead of bashing balls looking for the "secret". So he gave me an hr lesson. Anyway, long story short, path problem. I was coming over the top slightly, sequence and timing were a little off. He worked with me on exactly what you suggested. He would say "think 10 yards right, and youll hit from inside out" So, now I know what I reallly need to work on, and I saved money by not making an impulse buy : )
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Good on you and good luck with the swing changes. As has been said you can use your irons well into single digit handicap no problems. There are tons of guys playing the likes on G25 on single handicaps. Its kinda reverse cool, to see guys with what looks, in many peoples opinion, a hacks bag full of SGI and hybrids pocket the cash from the tour wannabes. Used to play with a little guy in his late 40s,  that used to float on a 2-3 handicap, with a bag full of stock Adams A3OS irons and hybrids, did he ever make some $$$ with those that didn't know him when we travelled!

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