My Swing (Sandhills Golfer)

**Sandhills Golfer** · June 11, 2015

I've been Playing Golf for: 25 yrs

My current handicap index or average score is: 97

My typical ball flight is: fade

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: fat shot, slice, ball landing short of target

**boogielicious** · June 12, 2015

Thanks for posting. It would help if you filmed the swing a bit better. See the thread below.

http://thesandtrap.com/b/playing_tips/filming_your_swing

Below is an example of how to align the camera. I usually take my stance, put a club at my feet, then align the camera to the club.

**Sandhills Golfer** · June 15, 2015

I've been Playing Golf for: 25 yrs
My current handicap index or average score is: 97
My typical ball flight is: fade
The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: fat shot, slice, ball landing short of target

For now, just use the full screen. Any ideas/feedback?

**boogielicious** · June 15, 2015

It is tough to tell from that angle, but usually a fat shot is caused by not getting your weight forward enough at impact. A slice can be caused by the same thing because with your weight back, you can tend to swing across the ball, over-the-top, which can cause a slice.

I would recommend looking this thread.

And the key #2 videos in this thread. Key 2 is weight forward at impact. Your head is not moving much, which is good, so Key 1 is not an issue.

Try getting some more video if possible.

**Sandhills Golfer** · June 15, 2015

It is tough to tell from that angle, but usually a fat shot is caused by not getting your weight forward enough at impact. A slice can be caused by the same thing because with your weight back, you can tend to swing across the ball, over-the-top, which can cause a slice.

I would recommend looking this thread.

And the key #2 videos in this thread. Key 2 is weight forward at impact. Your head is not moving much, which is good, so Key 1 is not an issue.

Try getting some more video if possible.

Thanks, Scott. Good call. I think I am guilty of hanging back and flipping and helping the ball in the air. I'll take a look at the vids and threads. I appreciate it!

**Sandhills Golfer** · August 23, 2015

@6minutes in?

Lol one anyway

Can anyone explain, Vijay's swing trigger move to start the swing. IMOP - one of the best ways to start a swing. But, I can't figure it out. It seems to be two moves in one, knee kick and something else.

***iacas*** · August 23, 2015

Can anyone explain, Vijay's swing trigger move to start the swing. IMOP - one of the best ways to start a swing. But, I can't figure it out. It seems to be two moves in one, knee kick and something else.

Probably not really on topic here, and as a 22, you probably have some other, larger things to worry about than how Vijay started his backswing. Do you have a Member Swing thread? Yes, you do… please post there. You can always quote a post and post there. I'll help you out and move these posts to it.

**Sandhills Golfer** · August 23, 2015

Probably not really on topic here, and as a 22, you probably have some other, larger things to worry about than how Vijay started his backswing. Do you have a Member Swing thread? Yes, you do… please post there. You can always quote a post and post there. I'll help you out and move these posts to it.

Eric,

I do. But, here are updated swing videos. Can you please make any recommendations?

Thanks,

SG

***iacas*** · August 23, 2015

You just lift your arms up without turning. That's why you have to bend your arms so much to feel you've completed your backswing.

**boogielicious** · August 24, 2015

@Sandhills Golfe

As we get older our hips and shoulders can lose flexibility (I know!). Below is a simple exercise that one of our members posted that really helps stretch and strengthen the core to better make the turn that Erik posted. I do this as a warm up stretch before I practice and play. It really helps. Check out the thread and specifically #4.

4. One exercise for more flexibility and core strength.

This one move is not going to give you the body of Arnold Schwarzenegger but it will help in developing flexibility and core strength.

Get in your address position (with the proper posture that you’ve been practicing), hold your 5 iron at either end and lay it behind your neck, across your shoulders. From there, turn into your backswing, while keeping proper posture with a consistent spine angle, and hold the position at the top of your backswing. You should feel your core muscles being engaged at this point.

While you’re in this position, take note of the angle the shaft is in across your shoulders. When you make your downswing, make sure to emulate this same angle when you are at the point of impact. Your hands on either end of the shaft should be in the exact opposite positions that they were when you were at the top of your backswing.

Complete your swing to a balanced follow-through. Do this for 15 minutes a day and you’ll find you’ll have a little more core strength at the beginning of the season and a lot more flexibility.

**Sandhills Golfer** · August 24, 2015

You just lift your arms up without turning. That's why you have to bend your arms so much to feel you've completed your backswing.

Thanks, Eric

**Sandhills Golfer** · August 24, 2015

@Sandhills Golfe

As we get older our hips and shoulders can lose flexibility (I know!). Below is a simple exercise that one of our members posted that really helps stretch and strengthen the core to better make the turn that Erik posted. I do this as a warm up stretch before I practice and play. It really helps. Check out the thread and specifically #4.

Appreciate it, boogielicious. Flexibility is a big issue here. I have a bad back and due to my job, I have been glued to my desk for 45-50 hrs per week for 20+ years. Recently, one of the local physical therapists/golf enthusiasts ran a flexibility test on me and said, I am good half way back, after that I don't have the flexibility to complete the turn. Of course, I was thinking he suggested this. to gain a new client, I am starting to think he was right. SG

**boogielicious** · August 24, 2015

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Originally Posted by boogielicious

@Sandhills Golfe

As we get older our hips and shoulders can lose flexibility (I know!). Below is a simple exercise that one of our members posted that really helps stretch and strengthen the core to better make the turn that Erik posted. I do this as a warm up stretch before I practice and play. It really helps. Check out the thread and specifically #4.

Appreciate it, boogielicious. Flexibility is a big issue here. I have a bad back and due to my job, I have been glued to my desk for 45-50 hrs per week for 20+ years. Recently, one of the local physical therapists/golf enthusiasts ran a flexibility test on me and said, I am good half way back, after that I don't have the flexibility to complete the turn. Of course, I was thinking he suggested this. to gain a new client, I am starting to think he was right. SG

Try to do this stretch daily for a while. It will help along with other stretching.

***iacas*** · August 24, 2015

Appreciate it, boogielicious. Flexibility is a big issue here. I have a bad back and due to my job, I have been glued to my desk for 45-50 hrs per week for 20+ years. Recently, one of the local physical therapists/golf enthusiasts ran a flexibility test on me and said, I am good half way back, after that I don't have the flexibility to complete the turn. Of course, I was thinking he suggested this. to gain a new client, I am starting to think he was right. SG

It isn't the issue you think it is. You barely turn your hips. You're conning yourself (I mean this in a good way) and you're being lied to about your "lack of flexibility." I've seen it thousands of times now.

Your swing is not good half way back.

Fix that - which I'm confident you CAN DO (because later in your swing you rotate more) - and you'll be better off.

Stretching is good. Do what Scott says, too. But just TURN and you'll be surprised at how much flexibility you have. Compare your backswing and look at the hips and torso compared to @boogielicious : http://thesandtrap.com/t/75473/my-swing-boogielicious/90#post_1154513 .

**Sandhills Golfer** · August 24, 2015

It isn't the issue you think it is. You barely turn your hips. You're conning yourself (I mean this in a good way) and you're being lied to about your "lack of flexibility." I've seen it thousands of times now.

Your swing is not good half way back.

Fix that - which I'm confident you CAN DO (because later in your swing you rotate more) - and you'll be better off.

Stretching is good. Do what Scott says, too. But just TURN and you'll be surprised at how much flexibility you have. Compare your backswing and look at the hips and torso compared to @boogielicious : http://thesandtrap.com/t/75473/my-swing-boogielicious/90#post_1154513 .

Thanks, Eric. Those still photos are very telling. Do you advocate turning your shoulders and then hips or shoulder and hips together in the backswing. I appreciate it. You've been more helpful in a few posts compared to 3 recent in person lessons with my local pro. SG

**Phil McGleno** · August 24, 2015

Thanks, Eric. Those still photos are very telling. Do you advocate turning your shoulders and then hips or shoulder and hips together in the backswing. I appreciate it. You've been more helpful in a few posts compared to 3 recent in person lessons with my local pro. SG

I used to do it so I am speaking from experience-Demonstrate your gratitude by spelling the name of the dude the right way. You are not asking me but I say turn them both and do not worry about moving one or the other.-They will both turn.

***iacas*** · August 24, 2015

You are not asking me but I say turn them both and do not worry about moving one or the other.-They will both turn.

Pretty much this, @Sandhills Golfe .

**Sandhills Golfer** · August 25, 2015

Pretty much this, @Sandhills Golfe .

I took this to the practice field - turning my shoulder and hips together. It's a weird feeling for someone who hasn't turned much before in the last 30 years. I did try moving my hips once years ago to accomplish the same thing. But, I gave up on it quickly as it felt strange.

With my no hip turn swing, in my mind I thought the resistance was a good thing and thought I was coiling. But, now in hind site, I see thanks, to you guys I was not moving my hips. A free and proper turn is better.

Moving both my shoulder and hips together feels better and my range session was promising. I added swing from the ground up on the forward swing and struck the ball nicely. One thing I learned from my lessons. When I did hit it pure, it had a higher ball flight - just like today. Erik, Scott and Phil, thank you! SG

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