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I have recently read about the ball flight laws. I know that clubface is the most important factor when shaping a shot but I know swing path is important as well.

This is where I will throw up a disclaimer. This advice I am about to give is for people that their major miss is a hook but still hit the ball far and understand how to draw the ball. If you just finally beat the slice or if you lack distance I would not recommend this move.

Now I am in the earlier stages of trying to develop a fade. I found that minor adjustments caused inconsistence in my desired result, meaning the traditional methods without changing my swing majorly would give me the desired fade approximately 1 out 3 times. Doing this at least in the initial testing is giving me a fade about 90% of the time with the rest being mostly pulls.

Now the move. when I start my back swing I immediately move my hands away from the ball. This gives me a gross aggressive out to in swing the classic slicer move which promotes a nice casting of the club. This will give you the left to right and actually with my power/natural tendency to draw/hook a good power fade. On the occasion you do try to correct your backswing and get out of the casting position in which you will most likely pull it but I have seen these to be power packed and not too bad.

What say you sand trappers?

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Now the move. when I start my back swing I immediately move my hands away from the ball. This gives me a gross aggressive out to in swing the classic slicer move which promotes a nice casting of the club.

Some additional clarity here is required, IMO.

Generally speaking, the feel that may work for you may not work for others.

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Now the move. when I start my back swing I immediately move my hands away from the ball. This gives me a gross aggressive out to in swing the classic slicer move which promotes a nice casting of the club. This will give you the left to right and actually with my power/natural tendency to draw/hook a good power fade. On the occasion you do try to correct your backswing and get out of the casting position in which you will most likely pull it but I have seen these to be power packed and not too bad.

What say you sand trappers?

Casting is never good and it's not the way to hit a proper fade. Simply aim your body left and aim the clubface a little bit less left.

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Some additional clarity here is required, IMO.

Generally speaking, the feel that may work for you may not work for others.

Normally I would make my backswing on line with the ball (blue arrow).Now I am trying to push my hands immediately away from the ball (red arrow) this is my first move on the back swing.

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Casting is never good and it's not the way to hit a proper fade. Simply aim your body left and aim the clubface a little bit less left.


Why? I understand its a major fault for beginners and slicers but when you want to call on a reliable left to right why not cheat a little?

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Casting is never good and it's not the way to hit a proper fade. Simply aim your body left and aim the clubface a little bit less left.

Why? I understand its a major fault for beginners and slicers but when you want to call on a reliable left to right why not cheat a little?


It is easier to hit a reliable fade using good technique. How you came to believe casting is ever a good idea is beyond me.

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Normally I would make my backswing on line with the ball (blue arrow).Now I am trying to push my hands immediately away from the ball (red arrow) this is my first move on the back swing.

There was no picture.

I still don't know what you mean about pushing your hands away from the ball. Also, again, a feel that works for you may or may not work for someone else.

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There was no picture.

I still don't know what you mean about pushing your hands away from the ball. Also, again, a feel that works for you may or may not work for someone else.


Sorry attached. So basically as the red arrow indicates I move the head of the club away from the ball to promote more of an outside/inside swing or a cut across the ball at the top.

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Sorry attached. [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/124867/] [/URL]So basically as the red arrow indicates I move the head of the club away from the ball to promote more of an outside/inside swing or a cut across the ball at the top.

Well, I'm glad it works for you, but I'd generally advise that people fix it properly.

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Well, I'm glad it works for you, but I'd generally advise that people fix it properly.


What would be proper? I have read many articles that state put the ball farther back in your stance, open the clubface, aim to hit the outside of the ball, open your stance etc... Are these anymore of a cheat then using your ability to manipulate swing path in order to hit the desired ball flight?

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What would be proper? I have read many articles that state put the ball farther back in your stance, open the clubface, aim to hit the outside of the ball, open your stance etc... Are these anymore of a cheat then using your ability to manipulate swing path in order to hit the desired ball flight?

Proper would be fixing the swing "normally" so it's not so far to the right at impact. Proper would be not requiring a move that virtually no good player makes (moving his clubhead along the red arrow) in order to hit a fade.

That's all I meant.

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Proper would be fixing the swing "normally" so it's not so far to the right at impact. Proper would be not requiring a move that virtually no good player makes (moving his clubhead along the red arrow) in order to hit a fade.

That's all I meant.


I was trying to develop a go to fairway finding shot but your right I did some more research and to truly hit a fade with power I should be just adjusting my stance/club face then still hit from the inside. Hmmm more training is needed.

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