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I think I've solved the short club problem for now, I'm just not hitting my SW outside of 60 yards at all... (I have a go to shot from 75-90 with a partial GW flighted down)... But that's off topic and not the point... I'm having some trouble keeping my 3-hybrid straight, at least it's a one way miss, a pull hook to the left... My 3-wood on the other hand, has been magical lately hitting it 225-230 off the turf either straight or with a slight draw... My 3-hybrid is my 200-210 club, I'm thinking about replacing it with a 5 or 7 wood, probably a 5 wood because that would fit the 200-210 number a little better than the 7-wood... My 4-hybrid I'm not having this problem with, I hit it about 195 pretty straight with a slight draw... So my question is should I work on my 3-hybrid remedying the weak pull, or would a lofted fairway be a little better for my confidence? Shane Any comments appreciated... I've been playing really well lately, just trying to take that next step.

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Unless the swingweight of the 3 hybrid is significantly different than the clubs around it, the issue is most likely mental. Not sure how often you use it during an average round but a few poor shots can seem like a pattern if you're not using it frequently.

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Have you tried setting up with your 3-hybrid slightly open to counter any offset or draw bias the club was designed with?

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Have you tried setting up with your 3-hybrid slightly open to counter any offset or draw bias the club was designed with?

Related to this: Do you have the same thickness grip on the 3H as the 4H? If you bought them used from Tour Edge, did both come with the same grips?

Compare the lie angle on the 3H and the 4H. If the 3H somehow ended up more upright (check specs chart), this would increase chances of a left miss.

Finally, you could always have the grip adjusted using a clockface as positioning guide. As shown below, rotate grip so that the alignment markings are moved to 11 o'clock. That way, the clubface will be slightly open when player places hands on alignment markings during grip set-up.

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Related to this: Do you have the same thickness grip on the 3H as the 4H? If you bought them used from Tour Edge, did both come with the same grips? Compare the lie angle on the 3H and the 4H. If the 3H somehow ended up more upright (check specs chart), this would increase chances of a left miss. Finally, you could always have the grip adjusted using a clockface as positioning guide. As shown below, rotate grip so that the alignment markings are moved to 11 o'clock. That way, the clubface will be slightly open when player places hands on alignment markings during grip set-up. [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/129223/] [/URL]

I actually bought them new from Rock Bottom Golf... So the Grips are the same. I play Tour Edge XRail Driver, 3-wood and Hybrids... If that helps...

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The reason I asked about an offset is I have an off the shelf from costco full callaway set.  5 thru SW, 4 hybrid, 5W, 3W, Dr

My 4 hybrid has a noticeable offset compared to the rest of my clubs and I have to adjust a bit or I'll pull draw it.  It was slightly annoying but I've learned to adjust for it and it has become an easy club to hit.

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I actually bought them new from Rock Bottom Golf... So the Grips are the same. I play Tour Edge XRail Driver, 3-wood and Hybrids... If that helps...

I'm pretty sure XRail is their GI hybrid so it might be more offset than your 3W to improve forgiveness.  I'd go to the range and try setting up to the target with the club face slightly open to see if that results in less of a pull.  If it does you can then experiment with it to get the desired shot shape you're looking for.

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Similar stock shafts? Sometimes off the shelf shafts are slightly spined off center and glued in, unless adjustable. I just pulled and slightly reset a 3w and 5w I picked up, 5* and 15*, ( after hitting in simulators). Brought the consistent one side dispersion miss back to center better without set up club face adjustment. For me and the fitter that was one of the key indicators-consistent one side miss when similar club shot shape fine even with slightly different length.
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I don't have a qualified answer to your dilemma, That said, I think if a golfer has room in their bag for 7 a wood, and will take the time to learn to use it, they will be a better golfer. I carry a 7 wood, and I use it for all kinds of different shots. It's my "go to" money club when I find myself in an unfamiliar predicament. I use it anywhere from 180 yards and in. I have even putted with it. Chips, and pitches too when another, more readily accepted club might not work.

Another way to look at various golf clubs is that they are tools, and the golfer is the craftsman. A good craftsman knows how to use his tools.

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try the callaway big bertha heavenwood - 7 wood length with 4 wood distance

Not a big Callaway fan.

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Yeah I have an old Steelhead III Driver I can hit about 245 yards off the deck, but it isn't the point... I was thinking of trying to find the solution to the pull problem... I was hitting some balls yesterday, and Alec was noticing, I tend to "quit" on it when I think I have too much club... When I'm just "laying up" I do hit it straight... Maybe when I have 200 or so I should just hit 4h...

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I think I've solved the short club problem for now, I'm just not hitting my SW outside of 60 yards at all... (I have a go to shot from 75-90 with a partial GW flighted down)...

But that's off topic and not the point... I'm having some trouble keeping my 3-hybrid straight, at least it's a one way miss, a pull hook to the left... My 3-wood on the other hand, has been magical lately hitting it 225-230 off the turf either straight or with a slight draw...

My 3-hybrid is my 200-210 club, I'm thinking about replacing it with a 5 or 7 wood, probably a 5 wood because that would fit the 200-210 number a little better than the 7-wood... My 4-hybrid I'm not having this problem with, I hit it about 195 pretty straight with a slight draw...

So my question is should I work on my 3-hybrid remedying the weak pull, or would a lofted fairway be a little better for my confidence?

Shane

Any comments appreciated... I've been playing really well lately, just trying to take that next step.

Funny I should read this.  When I was fitted last week for my new TM irons, I tried the hybrids that were supposedly matched to replace the 4 and 5 irons if that was wanted.  On the monitor, I couldn't hit the hybrids, pulled every one of them.  Even the best swings I could put on them started left of target and then drew or hooked farther.  The irons consistently had a little fade, very controllable.  I even tried two other brands of hybrids and had the same results with all.  Now I have no hybrids in my bag, just Titleist 913 driver, TM Aero-Burner 5W, Aero-Burner irons 4-GW, Vokey SW and Cleveland 56° utility wedge.  I'm going with that bag, just 13 clubs including putter, for the time being.  I can't really think of anything else that I would have to have right now.

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Funny I should read this.  When I was fitted last week for my new TM irons, I tried the hybrids that were supposedly matched to replace the 4 and 5 irons if that was wanted.  On the monitor, I couldn't hit the hybrids, pulled every one of them.  Even the best swings I could put on them started left of target and then drew or hooked farther.  The irons consistently had a little fade, very controllable.  I even tried two other brands of hybrids and had the same results with all.  Now I have no hybrids in my bag, just Titleist 913 driver, TM Aero-Burner 5W, Aero-Burner irons 4-GW, Vokey SW and Cleveland 56° utility wedge.  I'm going with that bag, just 13 clubs including putter, for the time being.  I can't really think of anything else that I would have to have right now.

Update not pulling 3 hybrid as much anymore, only when I have 225 to the front on the 530-yard 9th Hole, in my first 9 today I had probably 255 to the hole, on 9... Hit a 3 hybrid out of the rough just short of the front of the green in two..

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I'm pretty sure XRail is their GI hybrid so it might be more offset than your 3W to improve forgiveness. ...

XRail long clubs skirt line between GI and SGI. But, they do this without high offset or draw bias.

The XRail FWs and hybrids have square faces with minimal offset. They get their helpfulness with extra heel-toe weighting, and a V-sole that helps get the club back to square in light rough.

Exotics XRail clubs don't go quite as far as the regular Exotics, but the XRails are very reliable if you just swing smoothly.

I am considering getting an XRail 4H to go with my 4W and 7W.

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