Passive torso with a driver

I have discovered something today, checking my video with a driver and comparing it to Adam Scott slow motion video with his driver. I know, you could check the video and tell me everything that is wrong with my swing, but for now I'd like to discuss the obvious, the big mistake there that I although a 36 HCP golfer,  can see. I think even  a blind person could see the difference between what happens in my swing in the impact zone compared to what happens with Scott's swing in the impact zone. Without slowing down the video, my swing looks OK to an untrained eye, but horrible things are revealed when I check the frames during the impact zone. While Adam Scott looks and moves like a tiger jumping to catch its pray, even when I stop the video and he is somewhere about to hit the ball, myself, at the same time, I look like a fellow waiting for a train on the platform reading a newspaper. He is dynamic, I am just standing there like a moron doing absolutely nothing. My torso is not doing anything, my feet are where they were at the address. This passive torso that only begins to rotate a while after I hit the ball and the finish looks nice again, this passive torso and feet during the impact zone must go. So I please ask you to help me find some good drills and exercise to make my torso rotate and move and move my feet in the impact zone, otherwise I will be stuck with 80 mph non swing, passive like a corpse, while if I start moving like a tiger, not necessarily Woods, I might add 20 mph to my swing, much more dynamic, and my golf will be in a different league. I had no idea how passive I was until today watching that video.  I am much better with my 5 wood, but that's because the whole 5 wood club seems to me like a nice light stick that is fun to SWING and I think I swing it and have more speed with it than with my driver and my torso is probably at least a bit more active. I have effortless 170 yards carry with 5 wood, feeling like having a nice afternoon walk in the park, while I get the same distance trying to kill the ball with my driver. Plus the ball goes everywhere of course.

I already have one, I posted a video a few months ago. I know what is wrong with my swing, just looking for some good drills to imprint the active torso in downswing.

This is a process ...

There are 5 simple keys to the swing ... Start on #1...

Steady Head

Then #2

Weight Forward

Thank you for those videos, I will check them out. I've just made some simple exercises with a wedge and the feeling is very new and much more like a swing, seems like a new period in my golf life will begin. I think we read about these things and try them out in real life, but as we progress we address the problems over and over again on a higher or deeper level.

If you search the site, you will find many threads on 5 simple keys and drills.

http://thesandtrap.com/newsearch?search=5+simple+keys

Or better, the official 5SK Video Thread for drills and such:

http://thesandtrap.com/t/61376/5sk-video-thread#post_781529

Actually, I don't understand the reactions to my question about my passive hips and core. I don't want to learn all about golf swing from scratch and I have already seen hundreds of videos and drill tips. All I am asking about is how to make the core and hips move in the whole full swing, I have worked on the correct position of the hips and core at impact for a few months and it helped me to improve my swing a lot, but the full swing, relaxed, quick swing with hips and core rotating haven't happened naturally yet. It is easier to do a quarter swing and make sure the hips and core are in the right direction -  that I can do already and hit the ball correctly. I am talking a quarter swing with a seven iron. But then when you go to full swing everything becomes quicker and if the movement is not imprinted or the muscle memory hasn't heveloped yet, for the full swing, the core and hips fail to rotate. That's why I am asking for drills for this core and hip rotations, but I understand there are tons of them all over the net. I am able to swing the club, hit down on the ball and make a divot where the divot is supposed to be with a seven iron maybe three ouf of ten tries. That's because I have been working hard on the correct position of the core and hips at impact, but only within a small, short swing, where it is easier to make and control. Now I need to extend that to a full swing. That's all.

You are a 36 capper, and you are trying to teach yourself, or you would not be asking these questions.

You need the basics, or you'll be going back to them. Put away the ego and learn the basics.

Passive core? Think belly button back, and then bellybutton forward - it's simplified.

The swing is a sequence of events -- you need the correct sequence. Try this search: http://thesandtrap.com/newsearch?search=sequence

Boogielicious, thank you very much, you understand what I am after. I will study the text and pictures carefully and will write later.

I know I must sound stupid and arrogant, but I know what I have learned so far, which is confirmed A by my teacher at the driving range, B by the trajectory and line of the ball I shoot. WHich Doesn't mean I don't have a problem. For some reason, the problem I am discussing my real teacher at the range didn't consider important for now. So now I could go back to him and ask hjim for help but he could just say like last time, when I showed him my progress with drivir and 7 iron/ he said, the driver straight, that's it, what else do you want, the seven iron straight, just a bit too forced... Believe me, if this teacher wanted to work on the next step with me, I would go to him, but he seems to think I am a kind of beginner (right] who seems to be content with the basics (wrong]. He never criticized my passive hips, although the video I can check shows absolutely dead hips with the driver. I am not whining, I am aware that different teachers consider different aspects of swing important and have a clear idea what to work on with the student, but I am just too impatient to swing with my driver for two years straight or not with passive hips...  So no, I don't think I can teach myself, that's why I am here and why I read articles and watch instruction videos and discuss my swing with a friend golfer and take lessons ocassionally.

I glanced over my read that you had an instructor. Apologies. Most instructors I've worked with say, "Don't worry about that now, we'll get to it."

Yes, I know about instructors saying don't worry about it, the body will react to the swing -- uh, not with me, or not enough -- I need to be hit in the face with detail.

I think here you will see that the hips remain forward during the backswing but the right butt cheek is turning behind you, the rear leg is extending, the weight goes to the back (right) foot. Then the left knee begins a lateral bump, weight pushes off the back foot all the way to the front foot (think 95%), the belly button is turning, the right butt cheek is turning, (lower body is opening up) you shallow out the arms (the shaft lowers and gets behind you - lag, the right elbow is in front of your rib cage) and then you turn (rotate like heck), the hips turn upwards like throwing a boulder, right shoulder covering the ball, flat left wrist, left arm on left rib cage, right arm really straightening to release and pop, still turning to a high finish to the left where the belt buckle may be left of target and looking upwards.

I need a cigarette....

and we haven't talked about the arms going back. I like them passive with a progressive cocking of the wrist.

See Adam Scott, Jason Day, Grant Waite, find a model on youtube.

This is a process.

Ask your instructor for more detail ... you will find your questions on this site.

Thank you. Do you think if one technique works with a mid iron, I mean say I have learned that hips movement with an iron, it still doesn't show in the swing with a driver? Cuz when I grab the driver I think my body thinks I am playing a different game. I can make an ocassional divot with a seven iron, or a series of divots when I warm up enough, (impossible with passive hips, right?) but then when I take the driver, I do different things. People sometimes say it is the same swing, but I am not sure, my body doesn't think so. Anyway, I took the driver to the practice range today and tried the new thing, really moving hips forward early enough and it is a completely new feeling. With a seven or eight iron, at least I have already been practicing what Boogielicious is suggesting and when everything clicks it works in real life, but hardly ever everything clicks, I need like 50 balls to get into the feeling. Driver, it is a different story and I am beginning to work on the new thing.

Driver setup is different at address.

Swing is same.

It's a longer club, and that presents issues -- all of your mistakes are magnified with the driver, and you will make more mistakes with a longer club. Arms get stuck behind you, weight is on back foot, hips go backwards, you throw yourself at the ball, all in an effort for more speed, etc.

I suggest putting away the long irons and clubs on the range and use wedges -- hone in a good swing with shorter clubs with lots of drills - don't worry about results. Change the picture of your swing with hard work and video, and good instruction. When the swing is boring and is consistency is high and of high quality, drill with longer clubs. Maybe 50% of swing speed, punches, etc., as you see in the vids above. It's what I do on the range.

Thank you for this exercise, I think I have to give it a try. I have been practicing this

for a few months and I can do it with the limited swing but not so great when full swinging, Jim McLean says" When you master this, check if you can do it with the full swing". I think there's a little gap that could be filled with your exercise perfectly.