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# Change in Lie of Iron Club Head

I recently visited the PGA Tour Stop store in St. Augustine, Florida. I talked with one of their clubmakers. He told me that he worked at Golf Galaxy in another part of the US for a number of years before coming to Florida. I asked him this: If I made a #5 iron longer than the standard length of 38 inches, would the head have a more upright lie or flat lie. He told me that making it longer would make the clubhead more upright.

What do forum members say -- is he making a true or false statement?

Lew

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Anyone what to make a comment on this?

Lew

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I thought about that few times before...very interesting question.
This is my logical guess...I could be totally wrong though.
One has a tendancy to maintain their comfort swing plane regardless of shaft length, then longer shaft will pushed the head slightly away from you, resulting upright lie.
Reversly, shorter length will give you flatter lie.

In that sense, I guess clubmakers are right.

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Agree with Fastrack. Clubmaker's right. When you lengthen the shaft, holding the club as you did before will raise the toe. You'll need to flatten the club head in order to compensate for the lengthening of the shaft.

If you doubt this response, do this simple test. Stick something down the grip to simulate the lengthening of the shaft. Then try to assume your regular grip around this extension and view the result.

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<wording nitpick on>
Changing the length of the club does nothing to the lie angle of that club. It's a measurement of the club, not of how you hold the club. It's probably (maybe definitely) true that your clubs will need a different lie angle depending on the length of the club.

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True.

Why question such a good clubmaker on an Internet forum? Strangers on the Internet more trusted than someone you can question in person?

Just curious.

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Originally Posted by Terrier
Why question such a good clubmaker on an Internet forum? Strangers on the Internet more trusted than someone you can question in person?

Just curious.
Because salespeople can and often do sound unconvincing. It is perfectly normal for an unconvinced person to question another’s statements if they feel ANY doubt about that person’s credibility, sincerity, or logic.

Let me guess – you have never been told something blatantly wrong by anyone with “credentials?”

P.S. Getting others opinions is a natural and wise response to such situations.

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You guessed wrong.

Go sell stupid somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.

What was the point of you enganging with my post?

PS: Nice to meet you. Hope your 12 translates to MB. (doubtful)

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I want to thank everyone for their input on this issue.

Lew
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