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How often do you regrip your clubs? Do you use the same grip for all clubs when regripping (except putter)? Which grips do you prefer?

I have had the same clubs for about a year, and I think they need to be regripped.

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Driver: r7 460 9.5° Stiff
3 Wood: r7 Draw
5 Wood: r7 Draw Irons 4-AW: r7 CGB Wedge: rac Satin 54° Wedge: rac Satin 60° Putter: Daytona Sport 1 34" Ball: DT solo or NXT

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mikelz Great Member

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How often do you regrip your clubs? Do you use the same grip for all clubs when regripping (except putter)? Which grips do you prefer?

If you grip the club poorly, you can wear out a grip in a month.

The clubs you swing the longest and hardest will wear out first. My sand wedges have had the same grips on them for 10+ years. I have no plans to re-grip them anytime soon. People also tell me they fall asleep during my backswing. It's a matter of feel. If they feel hard, smooth or slippery change them today. If there are indentations in your grips, see a pro immediately (for lessons). Gripping tips from me (and I have no following at all): 1. Driver Put about 10 inches of lead tape on the grip area first. You'll hit it straighter. 2. Hook Put 2 wraps of 2" build-up (masking) tape starting at 6" from the butt end. The grip will be 1/32 oversize under your right hand. 3. Wedges Put 2 wraps of build-up tape along the entire 11" the grip will occupy. Do step 2. You can't hit a high, soft shot if the grip is so small that you "nuke" every shot with wrists un-cocking and so forth. 4. Wedges II (as long as you have your lead tape handy) I like my wedges around a D-6 and the rest of them are OK at D-2. I got those tips from Ralph Maltby's "Golf Club Design, Alteration, Fitting and Repair".

Best, Mike Elzey

In my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 10.5 stiff
Woods: Ping ISI 3 and 5 - metal stiffIrons: Ping ISI 4-GW - metal stiffSand Wedges: 1987 Staff, 1987 R-90Putter: two ball - black bladeBall: NXT Tour"I think what I said is right but maybe not.""If you know so much, why are you...

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mybloodinvt Established Member

mybloodinvt

you should re-grip your clubs if they feel slippery. golf pride victory grips will glaze over in about six months. I currently have lamkin white crosslines on my clubs. some of them are rather old, seven or eight years old, but they still have plenty of tack. i probably won't change them for awhile. i have found that golf pride grips lose their tack fairly quickly and need to be changed more often. that is only personal experience and may not be everybody's experience. the only drawback to leaving any grip on for a really long time, they dry out and get really hard to remove. i use the same grip on all my clubs, and if i get a new club that has a different grip on it, i get a new crossline to replace it after a year or so. but i won't change it until it loses it's tack. if you are re-gripping your own clubs, make sure that you put them on straight if there's a reminder in the grip.

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driver-titleist D2 10.5* w/aldila nv shaft
3-adams speedline fast 10 w/aldila shaft
hybrid-titleist 585 17* w/aldila shaft
irons-titleist 735cm w/ttdg s-300 shafts

wedges-cleveland 588, 53* and 60* w/ttdg shafts

putter-scotty circa 62 #1, gun metal finish

ball-pro v1

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TommyD69 Well Established Member

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you should re-grip your clubs if they feel slippery.

I thought the word "slippery" was a Pennsylvania term, Oh wait, it's "slippy".

Anyway, I regrip my clubs when they need it. It's kinda like changing the oil in your car. "They" scare you into changing your oil every 3 months or 3,000 mile. The truth is, that's not ALWAYS true. So changing your grips every year is probably not necessary either. I "use to" have the same grips on all my clubs (except the putter), but Golf Pride has since discontinued MY grip (Player Softie cord). I liked them because they were "fat" under the right hand. I know I could build up tape under the right hand, but it's a pain. It was a LOT easier when the grip already had the "build up" "built in". So I'm searching for a new favorite grip.
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If you grip the club poorly, you can wear out a grip in a month.

where do you begin??

In the bag:
Driver-Cleveland HiBore XLS Tour 10.5s
Hybrids-Adams Pro Gold
Irons-Srixon I-701Tour PX6.0
Wedges-Srixon WG 50*/56*Putter-Rife BarbadosBalls-Bridgestone B330S

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ks8829 Great Member

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I have played my clubs for about a year and a half and my grips are still tacky. I play once or twice a week and once a month I will wipe down my grips with Windex and a paper towel.

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Titleist 910 F15 & 21 degree fairway wood
Titleist 910 hybrid 24 degree
Mizuno Mp33 5 - PW
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gas_can Dedicated Member

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If you grip the club poorly, you can wear out a grip in a month.

mikelz,

Those are some interesting tips. Point one is counterbalancing and it is not guarantee of hitting it straighter nor is it a guarantee of even reducing swing weight since the weight is in your hands. Point 2 is not for a hook, it is actually for a fade. Faders of the golf ball often take taper out of their grips by building up the right hand. A narrower club promotes a more active hand and is easier to turn over for a hook. If you want to hook the ball, use no tape under the right hand. Point 3 is only good if it fits you. Point 4, how do you achieve D6 by gripping alone?
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TourSpoon Super Member

TourSpoon

Anyway, I regrip my clubs when they need it. It's kinda like changing the oil in your car. "They" scare you into changing your oil every 3 months or 3,000 mile. The truth is, that's not ALWAYS true. So changing your grips every year is probably not necessary either.

Exactly.

I just regripped my entire set and while I can feel a slight difference, I probably didn't need to do it. In fact, my club guy told me that they were fine, but some of my grips were over 5 years old (like on my two iron that I retired). To tell you the truth, it just made me feel better. I still use my old standard, Golf Pride Tour Wraps. When I used to play three-four times a week, I found that if I was using the same grips I didn't have to change every one every time, especially for the low irons.

Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Big Tour 15.5*| Rad Tour 18.5*  | Titleist U500 4-23* | T100 5-P | Vokey SM7 50/8* F, 54/10* S, SM8 58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback No. 1 | Vice Pro Plus  

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mikelz Great Member

mikelz

mikelz,

Perhaps I was overly focused on my tendencies. I have been fighting a hook for 46 years.

  1. Point 1: It works for me. I learned it from Maltby's book. Excuse me but swingweight is measured on a fulcrum. How can it not be reduced is there is more weight on the grip side? Get out your scale, put some weight on the grip side and watch. This is the first mention of "resisting the shot". An early release is a lot less likely when the relative weight of the head is reduced. I don't even want to start on static weight.
  2. The point of 2, not well stated, is how to stop a hook. Yes, I guess Chris Dimarco's Driver grip is about 1/8" oversize under the right hand. Maybe more. Tour pros' hands are generally about 12 times bigger than mine.
  3. The point of 3: It's almost too easy to release short irons. Observations of tour pros tell me most of the bad short irons are left and long. Bob Goalby says: "A good player resists the shot", speaking about wedge play. You must have seen Jim Colbert blow the Senior Tour away with that "hit and hold" style of iron play. A clubfitter can help restrict the release of the right hand. I estimate the number of full wedges I hit is about 1:4 against partials. Judging from the number of pulls, chunks and skulls I see in guys that don't get it, I'd say they are about the same. Sure that's different for a full shot. I don't know any decent player I did this for who couldn't still hit a full pitching wedge straight (or trap it if he needs to).
  4. Point 4 says: "since you already have your lead tape out". I like tape a lot more than pouring lead powder and corks down the shaft. IMHO, that's a bad practice. Tape is not as pretty but the playing characteristics are in your control. I only weight down the shaft if appearance is that important to the guy.
Thanks for letting me examine my reasoning.

Best, Mike Elzey

In my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 10.5 stiff
Woods: Ping ISI 3 and 5 - metal stiffIrons: Ping ISI 4-GW - metal stiffSand Wedges: 1987 Staff, 1987 R-90Putter: two ball - black bladeBall: NXT Tour"I think what I said is right but maybe not.""If you know so much, why are you...

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gas_can Dedicated Member

gas_can

Perhaps I was overly focused on my tendencies. I have been fighting a hook for 46 years.

mikelz, your reasoning is sound, but application is compeltely missing.

Although you are correct in that swing weight is measured in a fulcrum the swing weight does not translate onto the golf course. If you were to wear a glove, would you consider the impact it has on swing weight? How about a ring? The answer is no, because the weight is in your hands. The balance point of a club changes when you grip it because you are effectively taking some weight away by gripping it with your hands. That's why getting caught up in what the swing weight scale says is essentially worthless. Swing weight scales are a starting point and not an end. Step away from the books and start thinking real world application. Again, you've found something that works for you. That does not mean it will translate to anyone else. How many average players miss left versus right. I would say 1:9. I'm willing to bet that 90% of the golfing population does not need help preventing the left shot. When giving advice, it might be worthwhile to present both sides of information so people can tailor it to their own needs rather than simply saying what works for you. You're correct that lead powder and a cork is a rather poor method of increasing swing weight. However, lead tape is not exaclty clean, nor is it efficient. It take miles of high density lead tape to accomplish changes in swing weight. Lead tape is fine for fine tuning swing weight, it is not meant for making major changes. Tip weights are for more efficient and durable when properly installed.
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mikelz Great Member

mikelz

where do you begin??

You'll need some basic tools:

1. A vice that won't move 2. A shaft protector for clamping the shaft in the vice 3. A knife or two suitable for cutting the grips open and shaving tape off steel and graphite shafts. Graphite, BTW, is a pain in the @$$. 4. A grip "slide on" device (it expands the opening of the grip beyond the O.D. of the shaft). 5. Scissors 6. Optional: Grip gauge to measure the diameter at specific points on the shaft. ( That's a "nice to do" but not absolutely necessary. If you are not doing any size alteration, just make sure the grips extend the same distance down the shaft. You can easily adjust the grip's position and diameters before the grip adhesive cures. NOTE: If it feels good it's right. ) If it's your first time, order a kit. You'll get the grips you want, grip tape, solvent and maybe a tool or two. That fixes you on supplies. Good places: golfworks.com or your local GolfSmith. Golfworks always encloses instructions. At a GolfSmith store, you'll probably get some advice. I recommend looking at golfworks.com first. If this is your first time, use round grips - NO reminder ridge. It's a task to get the logos in the the right place. Lining that ridge up is a lot harder than that. Don't try to regrip a putter until you are pretty good. Getting that flat side perpendicular to the face requires additional tools and some patience. Decent link for an overview*: Regripping 101 at lamkin.com http://www.lamkingrips.com/regrip_how.php *It's only decent. It recommends using your fingers to open the grip to slide it over the shaft. In my experience, you need to be unbelievably strong to do this.

Best, Mike Elzey

In my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 10.5 stiff
Woods: Ping ISI 3 and 5 - metal stiffIrons: Ping ISI 4-GW - metal stiffSand Wedges: 1987 Staff, 1987 R-90Putter: two ball - black bladeBall: NXT Tour"I think what I said is right but maybe not.""If you know so much, why are you...

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mikelz Great Member

mikelz

mikelz, your reasoning is sound, but application is compeltely missing.

Gee, I'm really tired of this.

A ring on your finger affects the swing weight? Congratulations: you get the last word.

Best, Mike Elzey

In my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 10.5 stiff
Woods: Ping ISI 3 and 5 - metal stiffIrons: Ping ISI 4-GW - metal stiffSand Wedges: 1987 Staff, 1987 R-90Putter: two ball - black bladeBall: NXT Tour"I think what I said is right but maybe not.""If you know so much, why are you...

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neudi Great Member

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I will usually regrip my clubs once a year and will get the same grip on every club because I don't like changing the feel of each one of my clubs by using different grips on them, just my pet peeve.
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Driver - Rapture 10.5 Epic 68g X-Pure - Balance Certified
Fairway Metal - Titleist PT 18°
Irons - Mizuno MP-67 3-PW Project X 6.0 Wedges - Mizunos R Series Chrome 52°, 56°, 58° Project X 6.0 Putter - Yes! C-Groove Callie-f - Balance Certified Bag - Ping Freestyle...
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mikelz Great Member

mikelz

I will usually regrip my clubs once a year and will get the same grip on every club because I don't like changing the feel of each one of my clubs by using different grips on them, just my pet peeve.

That makes sense.

Best, Mike Elzey

In my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 10.5 stiff
Woods: Ping ISI 3 and 5 - metal stiffIrons: Ping ISI 4-GW - metal stiffSand Wedges: 1987 Staff, 1987 R-90Putter: two ball - black bladeBall: NXT Tour"I think what I said is right but maybe not.""If you know so much, why are you...

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NM Golf Super Member

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I regrip at least once a year, and my clubs I hit a great deal (Driver, wedges) normally get it twice a year.

I have to go on record and say two things:

1. I think you're insane if you have 10 year old grips on your clubs. And I know you are doing your game a disservice. Even if you only play once a year your grips degrade from the elements. Oils from your hands, moisture, temperature, all play a part in making grips slick.

2. Most people are playing with grips that are not fit for play. I see people come in at the course where I work and their grips have to be practically missing in order for them to change them. 2-3 years of minimal use would be the absolute longest I would ever tell someone to go without changing.

Remember your grips connect you to the club. That connection is very important. I know most of you out there think your 5 year old grips are fine. take a challenge, go get one grip changed and feel the difference. I guarantee you will want to change the rest.

Danny    In my :ping: Hoofer Tour golf bag on my :clicgear: 8.0 Cart

Driver:   :pxg: 0311 Gen 5  X-Stiff.                        Irons:  :callaway: 4-PW APEX TCB Irons 
3 Wood: :callaway: Mavrik SZ Rogue X-Stiff                            Nippon Pro Modus 130 X-Stiff
3 Hybrid: :callaway: Mavrik Pro KBS Tour Proto X   Wedges: :vokey:  50°, 54°, 60° 
Putter: :odyssey:  2-Ball Ten Arm Lock        Ball: :titleist: ProV 1

 

 

 

 

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mikelz Great Member

mikelz

I regrip

Wanna play a round of golf from 70 yards in? Bring your wallet. Golf Pride Tour Wraps do not degrade - they aren't rubber. Victory grips dry up in 2 years. I think changing grips twice a year means severe Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

Best, Mike Elzey

In my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 10.5 stiff
Woods: Ping ISI 3 and 5 - metal stiffIrons: Ping ISI 4-GW - metal stiffSand Wedges: 1987 Staff, 1987 R-90Putter: two ball - black bladeBall: NXT Tour"I think what I said is right but maybe not.""If you know so much, why are you...

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TourSpoon Super Member

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Bob Goalby says:

No kidding, my brother (former assistant pro) used to play with one of Bob Goalby's old personalized Wilson Staff Bags.

I know its random, but I couldn't help it. Oh, I have a tour wrap on one of my obscure wedges that is in great shape, even after years of sitting around. Those grips really hold up.

Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Big Tour 15.5*| Rad Tour 18.5*  | Titleist U500 4-23* | T100 5-P | Vokey SM7 50/8* F, 54/10* S, SM8 58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback No. 1 | Vice Pro Plus  

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mikelz Great Member

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No kidding, my brother (former assistant pro) used to play with one of Bob Goalby's old personalized Wilson Staff Bags.

Bob Goalbys's bag? Now that's cool. Hubert Green gave me a golf ball once. I can't compete.

Best, Mike Elzey

In my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 10.5 stiff
Woods: Ping ISI 3 and 5 - metal stiffIrons: Ping ISI 4-GW - metal stiffSand Wedges: 1987 Staff, 1987 R-90Putter: two ball - black bladeBall: NXT Tour"I think what I said is right but maybe not.""If you know so much, why are you...

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