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How about using a driver with more than 9.5 degrees of loft? Just a thought.

I love my 588 DSG's. IMO, Cleveland wedges are on the same level as Vokeys (ie second to none).

Hitting a 3 iron 270+ and in the "fairway" is simply amazing. Hiroshi didn't even look like he was coming out of his shoes either. These guys really have game.

This could be a factor of how many players don't have true handicaps or play rounds that aren't governed strictly by the rules yet still record their score. For example, if a player doesn't record his actual score (mulligan here and there) or doesn't follow the strict rules (gimmie putts, etc.) in obtaining his handicap and then must do so in a Tournament their scores will certainly go up. Again, doesn't explain the Tour pros but I can see it happening with those that record "casual" rounds.

I believe that the graph indicates Tournament scores for those that have the handicap listed. Pelz's point is that everyone shoots above their handicap in a Tournament setting. This would explain the 71 average for Tour Players with +5 handicaps. Not saying I agree with it, but it makes more sense when you factor in the fact that the scores represented by the graph are Tournament scores NOT regular rounds with friends.

This is further complicated by the fact that "Stiff" and "Regular" are not consistent from shaft to shaft. I would advise you to find the drivers you like and hit both shafts on a launch monitor. I would also echo iacas' thoughts about whether you're swing speed is consistent or subject to changing as your game grows.

Your shaft flex is determined by your swing speed and swing tempo. A fitter will choose the setup that will benefit you the most according to your individual swing characteristics. For example, I have a fast tempo and a high swing speed so I use a stiff flex shaft to maximize distance and accuracy. However, my father has a slower swing so uses regular flex to maximize his distance and accuracy. Bottom line is that you should be fitted for clubs.

I did and it was very good. I was just curious what other golfers' experiences were. Any reason why you are using the ProV1x now and not the TP Black?

I have always played the ProV1 but recently found two Taylormade TP Red balls in the woods and figured I'd give them a shot. Wow. I'm not sure if it was just a good day or not, but I was hitting the TP Red about 10-20 yards further off the tee consistently. The ball also played well off the irons and around the greens. Anybody else play these balls? I'm thinking about making the switch from the ProV1.

It's "intents and purposes" NOT "intensive purposes". Sorry, pet peeve of mine. Back to your regularly scheduled thread.

It's personal preference. I need to have all of my grips be midsize because I can't stand to have one club feel different. The type of grip isn't as important to me as the size but your mileage may vary.

Read up on the irons at Cleveland's site: http://www.clevelandgolf.com/irons.html AND http://www.clevelandgolf.com/index.p...mldw¤t;=1 As for wedges, I have Cleveland 588 DSG's and love them. However, I've had Vokeys in the past and like them as well. I don't think you can go wrong with either Cleveland or Titleist wedges.

Into the wind: 20 degree hybrid No wind: 23 degree hybrid With the wind: Five iron This assumes that the hole is flat.

I have the Adams A2 and I love them. I'm sure the new ones w/ the Aldila Blue shafts are nice as well.

Agree. I just don't feel 100% comfortable swinging my driver in a tight situation. Give me an open hole and it's bombs away but in a tight situation I play the 3 wood for accuracy. If the Driver is your most accurate club then there really isn't a reason to force yourself to use a three wood unless you're worried about hitting it too far.