Dyna

My 2006-2007 USGA rule book which is sitting right in front of me states absolutley nothing about modifying the rules for local clubs to authorize measuring devices. Mentions modifying the rules to accomdate local playing conditions but that has nothing to do with any sort of yardage measurements. Maybe you both are all for modifying the official USGA rules when it suits you? Why have a rule prohibiting the devices if local club rules can superscede them? Hell, why have a rule book at all if local rules trump all?

As far as a supposed "local" rule goes, what difference does it make if a club breaks the USGA rules as opposed to a player or group of players? It's ok for a club to allow "cheaters"?

per the USGA rules book they are illegal. 14-3 The player must not use any artificial device or unusual equipment: a. That might assist him in making a stroke or in his play; or b. for the purpose of gauging or measuring distances or conditions which might affect his play.

measuring devices are illegal per the rules, are all the courses utilizing GPS carts in the wrong? How about people with Skycaddies? Following ALL the rules is fine if you have the game, unfortunately a lot of us aren't all that good. Sure we get a few decent shots here & there & hopefully & eventually may develop a decent game. Until that time what's so horrible about something such as leaving the flag in? I play a lot of rds by myself & don't pull the pin, just don't see the need to. Does that make me a "cheater" in the eyes of the USGA, sure but what does it hurt? I don't play tournaments, don't bet on the course, etc. Never have & never will, to me it's just a game & to get so anally wrapped up in following every single tiny rule while out on the course attempting to simply have a good time isn't worth the aggravation. Fastfed, want to join me for a rd of "sortagolf"?

A $20 Wilson putter from Walmart will work just as well.

I currently don't have a standard 3i, only my hybrid which I absolutlely hate. Can't hit that club nor the 4 hybrid yet I love my standard 4i & utilize it all the time. If I can find a decent cavity backed 3i I will snag it asap, haven't looked yet.

Wow impressive Ever hear Brad Paisleys song "Online"? Reminds me quite a bit of these average drive yardage topics.

Wouldn't a "scratch" golfer who supposedly averages 83 actually be somewhere around an 8-11 handicap depending on slope? I thought your handicap was your average score which means a scratch player obviously will shoot some rds in the 60's while others will be mid 70's? The chart makes no sense.

Anything has to be better than Greenshire though

Ever play Shepherds crook in Zion?

I checked Erin Hills out a few weeks ago, really nice course. Definitely on my "must play list". Wont happen this year but 1st thing next spring I will be there.

Well since I just took the game up again this year after a 15 year break, these were all new to me this year. All are in Wisconsin & within 1 hr of me. Baraboo CC Christmas Mountain Columbus CC Cold Water Canyon Door Creek Fairfield Hills Vitense Glenway Kestrel Ridge Lakeland Hills GC Lake Windsor Meadows of Six Mile Creek Pauquette Pines Pinecrest Pleasant View GC Portage CC Saddle Ridge GC Spring Brook Sun Prairie GC Tumbledown Trails GC Yahara Hills GC Waushara CC Rock River Hills GC

Here is a link for the 2008 US open, however I don't see any tickets listed for the weekend. https://members.usga.org/tickets/gen...ets/index2.asp Also, quite a few of the US amateur compettions are free to attend.

Played 18 thursday at Baraboo CC, 1st time there & I was pleased with 46 on the front & 45 on the back for a 91 total. Weird thing is I played at another new to me course today, Rock River Hills & had the exact same score, 46 front, 45 back. I am happy with my progress this year, started out in the 105-110 range & have worked it down to high 80's-low 90's. Next spring I shoot for consistent mid 80's.

Psst, it's not the club. There are plenty of guys out there with boring clubs like the R5 that are absolutely crushing the ball. Looking for that elusive magical club that will tack 25-50 yds on to your distance is futile.