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Sorry that does not intimidate me as I have a MSEE, with over 30 years of engineering experience with Professional Licensure so I know a thing or two about physics myself. As for your comments about instructors is quite condescending. One of the best instructors alive today knows a whole lot more than you or I do and strongly disagrees with you analogy. His name is Butch Harmon and I quote him. [quote]Extend your right arm for pure contact and better ball flight. [U]Good ball-strikers tend to "stay with the shot" well after impact. That means they continue to accelerate the club-head and keep it relatively low to the ground, letting it come up only when it can't track close to the ground any longer.[/U] This is a sign they've really caught the ball flush and created a strong, piercing ball flight.[/quote] [URL=http://www.golftoday.co.uk/proshop/features/stay_low_after_impact.html]SOURCE[/URL] What Butch is saying is what you hear many time when you watch a tournament from commentators like Johnny Miller when he says: He CHASED AFTER THE BALL. Meaning the player kept his body, hands, and arms accelerating through impact and through to the target. I can find another dozen top name instructors if you wish like Flick, Ledbetter. Pelz (Pelz is a physicist) , all of which make a lot more money than us teaching PGA pros that will say basically the same thing. I understand the club head physically slows down at the moment of impact. What I and most instructors are saying is [U]you do not quit accelerating at impact[/U] stay down on it and chase it all the way through to the target. Try telling Gary Player and Arnold Palmer they do not keep accelerating after impact. Their swings are famous for it because they went after it so hard after impact. When you do that you have your weight and momentum behind the club adding to its mass to drive through the ball. Just like the analogy of a boxer. I will trade anyone one punch and let them have the first swing providing they do as you suggest just throw a round house arm punch, no weight behind it, with all the speed you can muster, and no follow though to the target. Th opponent will not be able to move or hurt my much unless you catch me in the mouth and cut my lip. But that will not take me out When my turn comes I am going to deliver a power overhand right, with right elbow down, all my body weight behind it, and follow through until my body is completely extended. The victim will be flat on the ground taking a nap with likely a broken jaw. That is the point I am trying to make [U]you[/U] do not quit accelerating at impact. You drive through to the target.

OK Jamo you seem to be one of the more open minded Admin/Mods on this forum.Take a look at Tigers super slow mo with a 6 iron and note how far ahead his hands are at impact. There is is only 1 physical way to do that. This is HD Super Slo Mo stop action film. No distortion. The club head does not catch up to his hand until about 6 inches past the ball. Put another way the shaft and left arm do not form a straight line until well past the ball. There is no doubt about it. He accelerated through the ball. [VIDEO]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNh6mGTfK-w[/VIDEO]

You think? :-D Try to put that swing thought in your head and hit at the ball and see what happens. Or you could do what the Pros do and KISS by just accelerating through the ball to the target. The secret is a constant and deliberate acceleration through impact. and crack the whip in front of the ball toward the target.

Ever seen George Foreman or Bruce Lee throw a 3-inch knock out jab before? Do you really think they quit at impact, or followed through the punch driving with everything they have at the opponent to the ground?

You just made my point. an early release is casting the club or throwing the club at the ball. Video evidence of good bunker players is over whelming proof because the club club passes the ball out of the trap. See for yourself. Dave Pelz is a Physicist aka Rocket Scientist turned Golf Pro. As for me I am just a retired engineer who enjoys teaching. [VIDEO]http://www.pgatour.com/video/r/instruction/swing_coaches/2010/11/15/inst_pelz_bunker_tip9_10ms1340.pgatour/index.html[/VIDEO] Edit : not sure why the link does not come up as a picture.However it works if you click on it.

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I respectively disagree and so do physics and the major majority of instructors. Using the thought you imply is a guaranteed method to promote casting the club and coming over the top. The objective is not hitting the ball. The objective is swinging through to the target. The ball just gets in the way and goes for the ride and gets in the way. The human brain and body is not capable of timing what you suggest. I certainly cannot even begin to teach that. What I can teach, and the brain/body can do is accelerate through the ball. It is very easily to visualize by cracking the WHIP just ahead of the ball, not at the ball as you suggest. The swing does not stop at impact. The biggest mistake beginners, intermediate, and novice golfers make is they accelerate the club at the wrong target or object. Again the object is not the ball, it is the target. If you focus on the ball you will actually be decelerating at impact. There will not be any lag or shaft bend at impact. The club shaft will have already straightened out and starts slowing down causing the club head to catch up or even pass the hands which adds loft and a weak high hit. The secret is to hit through or past the ball to the target. As I stated earlier when you think or try to hit the ball, you accelerate your club at the top of the swing to the ball and will reach its maximum velocity before it makes impact. Accelerating too early will result in either a "cast" from the top, over the top, or an "early release." In either case, the club is actually slowing down by the time it makes impact with the ball. Therefore the big SECRET is constant acceleration is needed to ensure a lagging club head through impact. The only way in the Mind’s Eye is to accelerate or hit through to the target and Crack the Whip at the target past the ball, not at the ball. Here it is in action Notice the bend in the shaft and hands leading the club. There is only 1 physical way to do that: Accelerate through impact.

Sure it does. It is especially important on those short iron shots, pitches, and green side bunkers to generate backspin. It is also important on drive to compress the ball just a little more and keep it on the club face for that extra micro-second to give it that one last bit of compression to bounce off of. So your maximum club head speed just after impact when the ball leaves the club face. It is just pure science that applies to many applications to accelerate through impact like a boxer throwing a punch, or a tennis racket hitting a ball. Here is a good example by Dave Pelz on bunker shots demonstrating the importance. [VIDEO]http://www.pgatour.com/video/r/instruction/swing_coaches/2010/11/15/inst_pelz_bunker_tip9_10ms1340.pgatour/index.html[/VIDEO]

As mentioned already it is the club head which should still be accelerating through impact. In reality what most do not understand the hands and arms have already started decelerating assuming a full swing at impact. They have to in order for the shaft to unload the stored energy during the downswing. to allow the whip to crack as I call it for the lever between arms and club shaft to straighten out aka lag. Maximum club speed happens when the shaft unloads and forms a straight line with the lead arm. If the hands and arms are still accelerating at impact, then the club shaft would still be loaded (bent) and lagging to far behind. You need the lever to be straight in line with the lead arm at impact for maximum club head speed and acceleration.

If golf was easy and everyone could play scratch, they would call it bowling.

The best defensive team is the one that sits on the bench most of the game.

That argument cannot be made, you loose the argument as soon as someone says Basketball.

So how did I get an Avatar when I never uploaded one?. I know the picture, but who assigned it to me and stole it from my puter without MY PERMISSION?

Self explanatory. Any body else notice?

Here is a different alternative to consider. I have a Sky Caddie and it sets at home collecting dust. I do not care for them have to log in on a computer and down load the courses you play, and th every limited information. What I use today is my Android Cell Phone using Golf Logix. They are not limited to an Android, any of the newer cell phones can run it. Every Cell Phone has a GPS receiver in them so Big Brother can track you. It can also be used by applications. The Golf Logix has both a free limited service, and full featured service for $20/year? It provides much more information than my Sky Caddie does. Does not mattery what course I want to play. Start th eapp and it loads whatever course you are playing. It will keep your score, stats, handicap if you wish to enter it. You can log into your account from any computer and see all your scores, and even shot by shot if you enter it while you play.