Douglas2963

Dave: Just posted for interest sake. Did not say Mac was most efficient. Said he may be. Anyway Dave, while going back and forth with self proclaimed experts and arguing with them about who is right and who is wrong could be interesting, I will choose to pass and sign out of your forum. The few comments I have read so far are either in attack mode or someone just stroking their own ego. Constructive conversations are great, dialogue is great but not the kind of stuff I see on this forum. Enjoy,

Enjoy your golf Kevin.

Not too interested in going back and forth with anyone on what their opinion is because opinion implies ego. Have a low tolerance for ego. Opinions are conclusive and create conflict. Will not tell someone I am right and they are wrong. Now dialogue is different. We are all blocked by pre-conceptions through so many factors. To be open to the processing of information in a setting where there is no opinion formed is a great basis for learning. So in saying that and making a comment on what has been put out there, saying that lots of guys create an equally good or better impact position is based on what? Is it worth a discussion? If so what is your basis for making this assumption. Personally not interested in hearing it, but may make for a good discussion with others. The swing sent of the player 'back on' and the comment saying this person creates as good or better impact position than Mac is an opinion, not based on facts. If I was to give my opinion it would be different but have no interest in going back and forth with opinion. There are lots of ways to get the job done and in the end the best 'players' know how to make what they have work. The best players in most cases are not the best ball strikers and as we all know there are so many factors in making up the 'game' than ball striking. Mac would know that as he was not a good putter. Just put the Mac Model information out there for interest sake. Read it, take something or nothing from it on not, and understand what he does and why he does it. Good basis for dialogue. Enjoy. Would just love to disagree with you . Will not however. Case closed. Enjoy your golf mvmac.

Really no point, just putting it out there. Take away all the words and just look at what he does. Love the angle in video. Cannot imaging anyone who creates such an efficient impact position. A lot to learn from Mac. Not complex if you do not want it to be.

MAC MODEL Bennett and Plumber took instruction from Mac and wrote Stack and Tilt. Stack and tilt was the rage and then was not. Mac was not stack and tilt in their sense but many similarities exist. It may be the most efficient way to create optimum compression consistently. Watch this: Comments??? **P1 – ADDRESS:** - FEET WIDE LEFT TOE OUT ABOUT 34 DEGREES - ARMS HANGING NATURALLY WITH A LITTLE SET IN LEFT WRIST - LEFT WRIST CUPPED, RIGHT WRIST STRAIGHT - CENTRE OF HIPS JUST INSIDE HEELS - RIGHT EAR STRAIGHT LINE TO CENTRE OF HIP - RIGHT ARMPIT TO FRONT OF RIGHT KNEE - SHAFT PLANE TO BELT BUCKLE OR MIDDLE OF HIPS WHERE SHIRT MEETS PANTS - WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION EVEN - KNEES SLIGHTLY OUTWARDS AS IF SITTING ON HORSE - ANKLES WIDER THAN KNEES - TOES FLARED OUT TO HELP RIGHT LEG STRAIGHTEN WHICH ALLOWS FOR EXTERNAL ROTATION IN HIP AND LEFT LEG FLEX WHICH ALLOW FOR SPINE TO TILT SLIGHTLY TO LEFT - CENTRE OF CHEST OVER HIPS - HEAD TILTED SLIGHTLY TOWARD TARGET - RIGHT SHOULDER CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN LEFT MAKING RIGHT EYE LOWER THAN LEFT EYE AND RIGHT EAR LOWER THAN LEFT - SHAFT LEANING FORWARD SLIGHTLY - HANDS OPPOSITE INSIDE OF LEFT HIP - BALL ABOUT 2 INCHES INSIDE OF LEFT HEEL (LOOKS LIKE MID-IRON) P2 – SHAFT PARALLEL TO GROUND: - CLUB HEAD DISSECTS SHAFT PLANE LINE - LEFT HAND JUST OUTSIDE OF RIGHT LEG ABOVE KNEE - RIGHT ARM STARTING TO FOLD - NO LATERAL MOVEMENT - RIGHT FOREARM ALONG AND PARALLEL TO SHAFT PLANE LINE TO ELBOW P3 – LEFT ARM PARALLEL TO GROUND: - SHAFT 90 DEGREES - LEFT SHOULDER UNDERNEATH CHIN AND IN CENTER OF HIPS - RIGHT LEG STRAIGHTENING AND LEFT LEG FLEXES INCREMENTALLY AND RIGHT HIP MOVING TARGETWARD - HANDS DISSECTING JUST UNDERNEATH RIGHT BICEP - HIPS APPROXIMATELY LEVEL, RIGHT MAY BE MARGINALLY HIGHER - RIGHT LEG 174 DEGREES P-4: TOP - MORE STRAIGHTENING OF RIGHT LEG AND MORE FLEXING OF LEFT LEG ALLOWING RIGHT HIP TO TURN MORE BEHIND HIM - RIGHT LEG 168 DEGREES - CONTINUED ROTATION IN RIGHT HIP - LEFT ARM PARALLELS SHOULDERS - RIGHT FORARMS SIMILAR TO SPINE ANGLE BUT SLIGHTLY MORE UPRIGHT - FACE ANGLE PARALLEL TO LEFT WRIST, FOREARM AND SHOULDERS - SPINE TILTING TO LEFT P-5: LEFT ARM PARALLEL TO GROUND - WITH KNEES SEPARATING SLIGHT DROP OF HEAD - HIPS SLIDE, LEFT SHOULDER PULLS TARGETWARD AND HEAD MOVE FORWARD - WEIGHT PUSHED DOWN INTO LEFT FOOT - RIGHT SHOULDER HIGHER THAN LEFT - CHEST ON TOP OF BELT BUCKLE - LEFT KNEE FLEXED AND FORWARD - PULL OF LEFT SHOULDER CREATES LAG AND IS CRITICAL, CLUB DROPS BEHIND P-6: SHAFT PARALLEL TO GROUND - RIGHT SHOULDER NOW LOWER THAN LEFT - CENTER OF TRIANGLE JUST BEHIND BELT BUCKLE - LEFT HAND ON INSIDE OF RIGHT THIGH - RIGHT HAND IN CENTRE OF RIGHT THIGH - CLUB IN LINE WITH HANDS - TOP OF RIGHT ARM STAYS ON SIDE THOUGHOUT SWING - MAINTAINING LAG, JUST PRIOR TO P-6 ANGLE BETWEEN LEFT ARM AND SHAFT IS 98, LEFT HAND IN MIDDLE OF RIGHT THIGH AND RIGHT HAND ON OUTSIDE OF RIGHT THIGH P-7: IMPACT - FLEXION WITH SPINE TILTING BACK - AT FLEXION HEAD GOES UP - RIGHT BENT LEFT BOWED THROUGH IMPACT PAST LOW POINT - LEFT LEG FLEXED BUT STRAIGHTENING THROUGH IMPACT - POST IMPACT LEFT LEG STRAIGHTENED - LEFT SHOULDER CENTRE OF SWING FULCRUM - EYELINE THROUGH HANDS TO AIMPOINT, AIMING HANDS AT THAT SPOT ON GROUND IN FRONT OF BALL SO EYES LOOK THROUGH HANDS TO AIMPOINT - CENTRE OF HEAD OVER RIGHT KNEE AT IMPACT - LEFT HAND FLAT IN MIDDLE OF LEFT THIGH OVER BENT LEFT KNEE - WEIGHT 90-10 AND RIGHT SHOULDER AT BACK OF RIGHT KNEE - RIGHT HAND BENT AND HALFWAY BETWEEN INSIDE OF RIGHT THIGH AND MIDDLE OF RIGHT THIGH - LOW POINT SHAFT STILL FLEXED, RIGHT WRIST BENT LEFT BOWED - RIGHT WRIST MIDDLE OF LEFT THIGH, LEFT WRIST ON OUTSIDE OF LEFT THIGH P-8: SHAFT PARALLEL TO GROUND - LEFT SHOULDER TO HIP AND ACROSS HIP 82 P-9: RIGHT ARM PARALLEL TO GROUND - RIGHT ARM PARALLEL TO GROUND - FROM 9-10 CLUB CUTS OUT UNDERNEATH LEFT SHOULDER P-10 FINISH - RIGHT SPINE TO HIP, HIP TO TOE 145 - LEFT SPINE TO HIP, HIP TO OUTSIDE OF LEFT FOOT 156 - 95% OF WEIGHT ON LEFT FOOT AT HEEL P4 – TOP P5 – LEFT ARM PARALLEL TO GROUND SIMILAR TO P3 P6 – SHAFT PARALLEL TO TARGET LINE P7 – IMPACT P8 – LEFT ARM PARALLEL TO GROUND P9 – FINISH CENTRIPETAL FORCE NOT CENTRIFUGAL FORCE CENTERED OVER FEET AT ADDRESS RIGHT ELBOW ON RIB CAGE FROM P2 TO P3 FEMER (CENTER OF RIGHT LEG ABOVE KNEE) MOVES 3” FORWARD ON BACK SWING P3 – ELBOWS CLOSE TOGETHER – HIDE RIGHT FOREARM BEHIND RIGHT HAND P4 – LEFT ARM BELOW RIGHT SHOULDER P4 – RIGHT ELBOW ON SHIRT LINE OVER LEFT FOOT TO BEGIN DOWN SWING MOVE BODY FORWARD EYES TRACK TILT AT FINISH