{"id":2211,"date":"2007-11-01T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-11-01T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesandtrap.com\/columns\/thrash_talk\/a_ball_busters_view_from_the_desert"},"modified":"2007-11-05T21:46:47","modified_gmt":"2007-11-06T01:46:47","slug":"a_ball_busters_view_from_the_desert","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesandtrap.com\/b\/thrash_talk\/a_ball_busters_view_from_the_desert","title":{"rendered":"A Ball Buster’s View from the Desert"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"ThrashIf you didn’t already know, an easy way to get me to rear up on my hind legs is to suggest that the golf ball goes too far and should be rolled back. I walk around in a perpetual state of hypo-mania when it comes to this issue, and am constantly on the lookout to denounce and discredit those preaching heresy on the matter. This past weekend, I was fortunate enough to happen upon an unexpected source of support for what often appears to be my minority opinion. Well, at least I can say I learned some things that make me even more certain that the Pro V1 does not have us on the brink of self-annihilation.
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\nI suspect the typical Sand Trap<\/em> reader knows all the arguments for rolling back the ball: modern golf has degenerated into bomb and gouge, shotmaking skill doesn’t matter any more, classic courses have become obsolete as Tiger hits sand wedge where Snead and Jones hit 4-iron, course set ups have become ridiculous in an effort to “defend” courses from a technology-fueled game played by increasingly brawny, robotic-swinging touring pros, etc. I’ve happily assaulted (and refuted, I think) each of these arguments, but one for which I haven’t really had a good answer is the one about what the future holds. In other words, maybe things are OK now, but won’t the trend continue? If driving distance has increased 50 yards over the last twenty years, won’t we see 400-yard drives routinely on tour some day? Even I admit you can’t let distance increase indefinitely.<\/p>\n

\"Jason<\/p>\n

Well, I actually do have a good answer to this issue, but it’s tough to convince people that I’m right about it. I happen to think that technology is basically maxed out in terms of what the clubs and balls can produce in terms of distance. The Overall Distance Standard (ODS) of the USGA has fixed the resiliency of the ball, and other regulations prevent any further increases from club face trampoline effect. The widespread use of launch monitors has squeezed the remaining available yards out of the ball\/club collision by helping pros achieve optimum aerodynamics, so really the only frontier remaining is increased strength, speed, timing, and technique – resulting in increased swing speed – from golfers.<\/p>\n

But how do you know how strong a typical golfer will be in 30 years? Some argue that just as a 3-minute mile and a host of other track and field records have been consistently blown out of the water year after year, there is potentially no limit to what golfers might one day achieve. This makes sense generally speaking, but I suspect that there must be some sort of limit here as well. Unfortunately, up until recently, I wasn’t really very sure that I could reasonably predict what that limit might be.<\/p>\n

One idea I had was that a good estimate of what’s possible for PGA Tour driving distance could be found in looking at Long Drive Tour<\/a> golfers. Many long drive tour players are as oversized as the shafts in their drivers, often 6’5″ or more and built like NFL linebackers. Since distance is their bread and butter, it’s hard to imagine anyone being more physically optimized as a distance-producing machine than these guys are today. But who knows what these guys really do? OK, you hear about 450 yard drives, but what was the wind? Was it a rock-hard landing area? Were they regulation USGA club specs? I always thought it might be interesting to pick the brain of one of these guys, and see what they thought.<\/p>\n

Well, while testing clubs for the Golf Digest Hot List Summit in Mesquite, NV a couple of weeks ago, I was fortunate enough to have the chance to do just that with long drive tour champion Sean “The Beast” Fister and Matt Rudy, his collaborator on an upcoming book<\/a> entitled “The Long Drive Bible.” Fister, a three-time world long drive champion, was in Mesquite preparing for an upcoming Remax event, while Rudy, a Golf Digest writer and editor, was assisting with the Hot List proceedings<\/a>. The conversations, some occuring while Fister practiced on the range, were most enlightening.<\/p>\n

A few random tidbits… Fister caves in the face of a driver every few days, going through about 200 heads per year. He uses a 48″ shaft and swings a clubhead with four degrees loft. His swing is shorter than you’d expect given the other-worldly distance, and the club face was wide open at the top on the swings I watched. The sound at impact is shockingly loud, such that I had my fingers in my ears for most of the time I watched him hit. Fister is a plus-2 handicapper, and his main swing thought to hit it far is “try not to hit it far” (more on this later).<\/p>\n

\"sean_fister_driving.jpg\"To get a sense of how long these guys really are, I asked about the difference between, say, Bubba Watson, and a typical long drive tour player. Rudy explained that every once in a while a PGA or Nationwide Tour pro will enter a long drive event, and the consensus is that the longest modern tour pros are about 50 yards shorter, on average, than your typical long drive guy. Fifty yards is nothing to sneeze at, but it’s certainly less than you might think when you hear about some guy belting one 450 to win a long drive event. Just like the fish stories and other forms of hyperbole we get in PGA Tour TV coverage, we probably have an exaggerated sense of how long these guys are. I know it probably sounds stupid to say “these guys aren’t really that<\/em> long,” when they can hit 7 iron farther than most of us hit driver, but their exploits are still exaggerated to some degree. Anyone who has ever hit a ball 350 yards down a mountain fairway in the Rockies or a 220 yard seven iron on a semi-frozen or baked out muni knows what I’m talking about.<\/p>\n

Another interesting issue concerns the specific qualities of the modern ball. I asked Rudy about the so called “BAM core” golf ball phenomenon, the notion that balls like the ProV1 have a high energy core which can only be fully “activated” by golfers with very high swing speeds (over 115-120 MPH clubhead speed). When so activated, the idiotic argument goes, one gets a disproportionately large jump in distance, unavailable to the rest of us weenies who swing like, well, real people. As in, “swing hard enough and, BAM, you get 50 more yards!” Some people who believe in this have extended the illogic to say that a rolled back ball would really only punish the longest hitters, since they are the only ones really<\/em> getting the full benefit of modern ball technology.<\/p>\n

Well I am happy to report that the experience of Fister and other long drive tour guys blows this stupid idea out of the water. On the basis of their own experience, fortified with launch monitor testing and video analysis, many long drive tour guys have learned that not only does increasing swing speed bring incrementally smaller increases in distance (just as this USGA study<\/a> tells us, covered here<\/a>), but it is actually possible to reach a swing speed where distance actually levels off or even decreases<\/em>. That’s right, long drive tour guys take care to avoid swinging too hard.<\/p>\n

I want to be 100% sure you folks understand what I just said: there is a point where more club head speed actually produces less<\/em> distance. A shorter<\/em> shot. Yes, really.<\/p>\n

When I asked why this was so, I expected them to say maybe that the hardest swings tended to result in off-center hits, thus producing less distance by virtue of a less efficient mis-hit. Again, to my surprise, I learned this was not the case. In fact, The Beast and his colleagues have come to learn that, at high enough club head speeds, the golf ball becomes so deformed in the collision that it suffers aerodynamically in the earliest phases of flight, leading to decreased distance. They are literally approaching the point of exploding the golf ball.<\/p>\n

What does this mean? It means that even if some seven-foot, four-hundred-pound high school junior qualifies for the tour in 2024, he won’t hit it any further than Sean Fister does today, even if he can swing his driver 200 MPH. And when you factor in that PGA Tour players actually need to hit it to a guarded target – as opposed to the sterile, featureless grid of the long drive tour – and would need to swing 48-inch drivers with four degrees of loft to get the extra 50 or so yards, you become more confident that we are likely very close to the bitter end when it comes to driving distance on the professional tours.<\/p>\n

I suppose some of you are unmoved still. Maybe you want the golf equivalent of a miracle, maybe a divot in the shape of Mother Theresa, or the ghostly apparition of Hogan and Fleck floating above a drainage pond at dusk to be pursuaded to renounce your Luddite faith. No problem here, I believe in freedom of religion. Just don’t stage a golf ball-burning at my club, thank you, or go around lying about things like “BAM core” golf balls and spouting nonsense about 400 yard drives as if they will one day be routine. It ain’t gonna happen, folks.<\/p>\n

Golf is doing just fine. We’re very, very close to the end of the distance road, and the game is still a challenge, even for the greatest. The Pro V1 and Hex Tour are not demon seed. If our game is threatened, it’s not because of Bubba Watson averaging 308 or whatever the number is. Scott Verplank is a short hitter and one of the top money winners. Corey Pavin won an event in his 40s. The longest bombers aren’t exactly dominating majors, and the greatest player in the world wins majors as much by laying back off the tee as he does by booming drives. Augusta National’s membership can afford to upgrade and lengthen their course.<\/p>\n

Oh, and modern technology has made the act of hitting a golf ball a wee bit easier for the 99.9999999% of us who are the heart and soul of the game and don’t qualify for the Open, hasn’t it?<\/p>\n

Can we please grow up and put this pedantic, tired debate to bed? <\/p>\n

Photo Credits: © ScoreGolf<\/a>, © Golf Tips<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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