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Going from HD to 4K/HDR

nevets88

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4K/HDR is better than I thought it would be.

Usually an earlier adopter regarding things tech so late to the 4K train, didn't think it would be that much of an improvement, but beginning to see more of a difference than when in the store, looking at different TVs. When you're at home, rewatching the shows you're used to seeing in HD, that's the better distinguisher. It helped that the new screen is bigger too, going to 65 from 50. Could have bought earlier, but saved a ton waiting a bit, got a decent deal, barely did any research and comparison shopping and got a decent set under $700, free shipping, no tax, was looking at sets costing $2K a year ago. Even the free economy shipping took only 2 days.

Amazon Prime's show, Mozart in the Jungle, was the first UHD content I tried and the color and sharpness stood out although I could barely tell the difference between that and and The Expanse, which is HD on Amazon, dunno if upscaling is helping or my eyes suck. Upgraded Netflix to UHD, watched Dark, and it was more obvious than Mozart, the picture quality. The kicker was Planet Earth II, which is UHD. This is obviously the show to tax a tv's ability to the limit.

Still assessing sports and output from the Bluray player. Guess there will be a movie that will eventually convince me to go Bluray 4K, The Last Jedi, but will have to see how the current Bluray library is, how well it upscales.

So with dramas, it's a little better, but with science fiction, like The Expanse, with detailed ships and planetary details, you can really see the difference. Looking forward to what The Masters will be like. Even though trumotion is turned off, still seeing a little Soap Opera Effect. Going to take a bit to play with all the picture adjustments.



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If you type hdr into Netflix's search box, you get hdr coded titles. Same for 4K. Works for Amazon. 

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I may look at moving to 4K once the prices have come down a little. My dad was thinking about it till i reminded him of when they moved to HD. He put some football on the tv and he was amazed, he was like "Russ, the picture is brilliant" to which i replied "Dad, you're not on the HD channel, its just regular definition". My parents are in their 70's bless 'em, 4K might be too modern for them to handle!

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Keep in mind, the more pixels, the closer you have to sit (or the larger the TV you have to have) in order to actually get the benefit.  What you really want besides pixels is great color and great motion, very fast refresh rate and no motion blur.   I bought an OLED TV and it's fantastic.  It's 65 inches, and I can stand right in front of it, about 6 feet away, and it still looks like reality.   It saves a lot on airline tickets and hotel bills!

Halstatt, Austria, in 4K

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OK, after watching a bit of sports through a STB and over the air (quality supposed to be better because no compression), I see the difference now. HD sports starting to look not so sharp. Kind of like looking at text on a 4K computer monitor vs 2K. 

I see the difference in brightness and colors pop out more too. The old tv (5 years old) and the new tv are about the same price. 

Golf in HD is looking a little dodgy now. So in 10 years what will be the popular (judging by number of models offered on online stores) size? 80 inches? I dunno maybe projection tvs might be the thing in 20 years. 100 inches? 

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15 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Golf in HD is looking a little dodgy now. So in 10 years what will be the popular (judging by number of models offered on online stores) size? 80 inches? I dunno maybe projection tvs might be the thing in 20 years. 100 inches? 

I don't think I sit close enough to my TV for the difference to be noticeable.

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The only difference I've noticed between my old TV and my 4K set is on this aquarium thing my kid enjoys to watch. The fishies look real AF on the 4K. Other than that,  I haven't noticed any difference at all with sports or TV. Even when the output is claimed to be 4K. 

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My current TV is a 55"-4K and my old TV is a 40"-1080p. The 40" has a 51 ppi, and the 55" has 80 ppi. There is an improvement here. I can tell the difference on 4K movies, especially movies made on film.

 

 

 

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I have The Matrix in Bluray, so if I get 4K, can compare and contrast. The Last Jedi is going to be released soon, 4K BR, the digital version is already out.

Already, the 40 inch HDTV feels like a big downgrade now.

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Searching YT for 4K vids on China, Japan, Korea and binged for hours on videos like this. Virtual tourism.

 

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I'm trying to wait for OLED to become cheap enough before I buy a new TV. Then I'll get the advantages of 4K, HDR, and OLED all at once, which I think will justify the cost of a new TV more than just 4K and HDR by themselves (especially since I don't have any 4K sources yet).

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On 3/24/2018 at 10:26 AM, jamo said:

I'm trying to wait for OLED to become cheap enough before I buy a new TV. Then I'll get the advantages of 4K, HDR, and OLED all at once, which I think will justify the cost of a new TV more than just 4K and HDR by themselves (especially since I don't have any 4K sources yet).

That makes good sense. The tough part is not pulling the trigger when you see a good deal.

Bought the Planet Earth 2 4K Bluray and did some comparison with Netflix's UHD Planet Earth 2. Although switching back and forth was a pain, it took some tries, but I definitely see a bit of difference between the discs and streaming. It seems sharper not when there are lots of little things to render, but when there's not much on the screen ironically. Also the color depth is more pronounced from the disc. That said, will the 4K discs at $40 a pop is a bit much, I'll wait for the price to go down or for Redbox or other places to stock 4K BRs for rentals.

That said, the new set has changed some of the way I watch as watch more 4K content on YouTube now.

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Hulu streams in 4K for most of the shows I've watched, no 4K upcharge like Netflix. Did not know that. 

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