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I've been struggling with an out to in path and my pro got me to aim a bit left and swing to a different ball target line so it feels like I'm swinging right and getting my left shoulder up and right. Now, it seems to be helping get more of a draw shape but should the ball be finishing on the ball target line or my feet line?? I think I've got confused somewhere along the way. 

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24 minutes ago, Davie81 said:

Now, it seems to be helping get more of a draw shape but should the ball be finishing on the ball target line or my feet line?? I think I've got confused somewhere along the way. 

This is going to sound dumb, but the ball should finish where you want it to finish. That might be in line with your feet, it might be left of your feet, or it might be right of your feet. 

Your feet can influence club path, but your feet alone don't dictate shot shape. It's possible to draw the ball with a stance that is closed to your target, and its possible to draw the ball with a stance that's open to your target.

This might help you understand ball flights a bit more

https://thesandtrap.com/b/playing_tips/ball_flight_laws

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40 minutes ago, klineka said:

This is going to sound dumb, but the ball should finish where you want it to finish. That might be in line with your feet, it might be left of your feet, or it might be right of your feet. 

Your feet can influence club path, but your feet alone don't dictate shot shape. It's possible to draw the ball with a stance that is closed to your target, and its possible to draw the ball with a stance that's open to your target.

This might help you understand ball flights a bit more

https://thesandtrap.com/b/playing_tips/ball_flight_laws

That was my initial thought as well.  The problem with making swing changes is that it can be difficult to align oneself to achieve the desired result with the new shot pattern.  A slicer aims left so that his slice ends up in the fairway.  If he straightens his ball flight, he'll tend to hit shots to the left of the fairway for a while, because aligning his feet toward the fairway will just feel wrong.  So for the OP, first work on making your changes.  Then, figure out where you have to align yourself so the ball finishes where you want it to.

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18 hours ago, Davie81 said:

I've been struggling with an out to in path and my pro got me to aim a bit left and swing to a different ball target line so it feels like I'm swinging right and getting my left shoulder up and right. Now, it seems to be helping get more of a draw shape but should the ball be finishing on the ball target line or my feet line?? I think I've got confused somewhere along the way. 

I worked with @iacas last year and he had me open my club face to align more with my path and open my stance a bit too. So my foot line is a bit left and my face is aimed a bit right. The resulting ball flight is a higher push draw or push that does not end up on the line my feet were aimed at. 

If you watch the PGA pros off the tee, the ball doesn't always end up where their feet are aimed. Tiger's feet often are aimed at the left rough and he'll hit a high fade that ends up right of where his feet aim. Fred Couples is like that too, but does more of a push draw I think. Pat Reed's feet are always aimed right and he draws it back left of where his feet aim.

It has taken me a while to work out that the ball is generally going where my face is aimed because I used to hook it too much. I have been working on how I take my stance at the range so I can do it on the course. You have to learn to trust it once the changes become more consistent. I still fight it a bit and aim the face too far right, then just push it there. I really just need to aim it slightly right of where I want it to end up and just swing.

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On 4/17/2019 at 12:55 PM, Davie81 said:

I've been struggling with an out to in path and my pro got me to aim a bit left and swing to a different ball target line so it feels like I'm swinging right and getting my left shoulder up and right. Now, it seems to be helping get more of a draw shape but should the ball be finishing on the ball target line or my feet line?? I think I've got confused somewhere along the way. 

Honestly, this is about the only way I can hit the ball without coming over the top. Take the club away along the toe line, let the arms DISCONNECT like Lee, then drop them in, reconnect and turn. I think I'm going to stop using this only as a drill and start using it on the golf course. If I set up square, I just whip it inside and go over the top.

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More years ago than I care to think about, I read an article by Trevino titled "Aim Left, Swing Right, Hit Straight". This sounds like what your instructor is wanting you to do. The ball should finish on your target line, or, as klineka said, where you WANT it to finish! Back when I played my best golf, my stance was square to the line, but I swung a bit inside out. The ball would start slightly to the right, and a baby draw would bring it right back to the line where my feet were pointing.

May buddy is another case in point, where the ball doesn't always go where the feet are pointing. He aims well to the right, throws the club OTT, squares the clubface at impact and pulls the ball into the fairway! Many times his Son and I have stood behind him to see him aiming into a grove of trees about 180 off the tee, only to smack one right down the middle! 

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41 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

More years ago than I care to think about, I read an article by Trevino titled "Aim Left, Swing Right, Hit Straight".

Any idea where you read that? I'd love to get a copy of his book but, they are not cheap.

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I think the book is "Groove your Swing My Way" by Lee Trevino published in 1976. To me its a great book, even if I don't swing like Trevino. It is always one of my golf book reads during winter here in Chicago - always seem to pick up some little point that seems spot on for my swing.

You are correct for some reason its not cheap on Ebay or other sites. I have had my copy for 10+ years. 

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On 1/27/2020 at 10:22 PM, Hackasaurus Rex said:

Any idea where you read that? I'd love to get a copy of his book but, they are not cheap.

It wasn't a book. It was an article in Golf Digest.

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