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I play the old X2 irons. My swing speed is low due to shoulder surgery. So it's around 80 mph. I am looking into getting new irons. I am going between Rogue and rogue X with graphite shafts. I hit my X2's low and never had a high ball flight. So I need some input on which one would be better for me. Handicap is a 13 trending to 15. Need to start trending other way. Thanks

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9 minutes ago, Rogue irons said:

I play the old X2 irons. My swing speed is low due to shoulder surgery. So it's around 80 mph. I am looking into getting new irons. I am going between Rogue and rogue X with graphite shafts. I hit my X2's low and never had a high ball flight. So I need some input on which one would be better for me. Handicap is a 13 trending to 15. Need to start trending other way. Thanks

Hello and welcome to TST. I assume you mean your driver swing speed is 80mph? Obviously the best way for you to choose is to see a fitter. If you know you aren’t going to do that then there are several manufacture’s sites that ask some questions and will statically fit you with a shaft. In the game improvement/super game improvement genre most all these irons are designed to get the ball in the air easier than player’s models. However the shaft has a very large role in your ball striking in regards to trajectory.

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14 minutes ago, Rogue irons said:

I play the old X2 irons. My swing speed is low due to shoulder surgery. So it's around 80 mph. I am looking into getting new irons. I am going between Rogue and rogue X with graphite shafts. I hit my X2's low and never had a high ball flight. So I need some input on which one would be better for me. Handicap is a 13 trending to 15. Need to start trending other way. Thanks

I would recommend getting custom fit by a club fitter in your area who has access to a launch monitor and will be able to identify which irons fit you the best

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A couple things about getting fitted for irons.

Firstly, as others have said, getting fit is a great idea if you are buying new irons. There are so many shaft options, it's hard to know which is going to work best for you without a proper fitting. 

As a 13 - 15 handicap, your swing should be consistent enough for a fitting. 
Having said that, if your shoulder surgery is something that's going to heal and after it heals you are likely to get a bunch of swing speed back, you actually may want to wait until that healing process is complete before getting fit. If your swing speed (with a driver?) is 80 mph right now, but is likely to be 95 or 100 or more later after you completely heal up getting fit (or even getting new irons) now probably doesn't make a lot of sense. Wait until you are back to "normal" before getting fit for new irons. 

On the other hand, if you swing speed is what it is after surgery and it's not going to get much better, than absolutely go git fitted. 

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Couple of things that’s my driver speed and shoulder is all healed so that’s what I am working with. As for fitting I live a good hour from a fitting place. Been playing for 45 years before shoulder I was a 5 handicap with age and a few health problems like both shoulders and hip replacement I am just looking for a few extra yards   Really want to know what people think of rogue vs rogue x clubs. Bought Cleveland launchers last year hated them sold them now back to X2’s

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Just now, Rogue irons said:

As for fitting I live a good hour from a fitting place. 

IMO 2 hours total of driving would be worth it to me to know I'm spending $1000+ on the correct clubs for my swing/game.

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2 hours ago, Rogue irons said:

Couple of things that’s my driver speed and shoulder is all healed so that’s what I am working with. As for fitting I live a good hour from a fitting place. Been playing for 45 years before shoulder I was a 5 handicap with age and a few health problems like both shoulders and hip replacement I am just looking for a few extra yards   Really want to know what people think of rogue vs rogue x clubs. Bought Cleveland launchers last year hated them sold them now back to X2’s

I think the rogue irons are a fine club. The Rogue X are really strong lofted but they do hit the ball really high even with the strong lofts. The Rogue X will definitely get you a few more yards. 

I really do think you'll be making a mistake if you don't get fit. I hadn't been fit for irons in 20 years when I bought a new set this year. I was truly amazed at the number of shaft options available and not only that but the difference in performance the different shafts provided. 

It's your money and the Rogues are a good product. I'm sure you'll enjoy the clubs even off the rack. But I'm curious … Why wouldn't you get fit??? It's fun. It's only an hour drive. If you're like me you'll likely play these clubs for 10 or even 20 years... So the cost is negligible when spread out over that time. Getting fit may have saved you the troubles you had with your Cleveland Launchers.... or at least let you know they weren't for you.

Seems like a no brainer to me.  

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I will go ahead and answer your question you are asking. The X line is different in 3 ways from the standard Rogue, all of which are designed purely to up the distance. First, the X line is physically longer by 1/4 inch over the Rogue. Figure the standard Rogue is also a bit long (talking static length here) to start with so the X could be considered 1/2 inch over standard. Second, the lofts are around 3 degrees stronger than the Rogue line (and the Rogue line is pretty strong to begin with). Third, the X line is 3 points lighter on the swing weight scale. Now as far as I can recall the shaft options are the same for both, so that means that the X line has a much lighter headweight.

The first two differences probably won't make any difference as to which you like more, but the SW difference would be the one I would be most concerned with. With your current game as you described it, I would think the light weight shouldn't bother you. The other consideration is if the club does end up feeling light, you can always add some lead tape to the head to increase that feel. You can't however go the other way if it's too heavy in the case of the standard Rogues.

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I have hit both the Rogue X and base Rogue irons. Rogue X has noticeably more range dispersion.

What you might do is get Rogue 5i to PW, and get a Rogue X 4i as a clearout club.

Of course, get a fitting before you buy.

Good move on graphite shafts, less vibration will help save your shoulder.

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