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I was recently looking at a Sun Mountain Pantom Cart Bag. The specific one I was looking at is a prior generation, so it was about $60-$70 less expensive than this year's model. 

Anyway, I wasn't sure if I wanted to pick it up or not. Although, they did have a blue one in stock which is a huge point in it's favor. 

But then I saw a tag on the bag with this: prop65-graphic.jpg.8f3fe5673363cee47f541cf106a3211e.jpg

 

I was trying to figure out what that meant??? How would my golf bag cause cancer??? Is this really something I need wo worry about???? 

Should this tag be on every golf bag? Is Sun Mountain just going out of their way to warn me??? 

Anyone have any thoughts on this? 

 

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I think it's a California law to have those, I was in L.A. a few months ago and they had similar notices in Starbuck's about coffee, the person I was with who was from there said there are these types of notices popping up everywhere now in Cali. 

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I think it's a California law that requires that notice whenever there might be a carcinogen in a product. Most likely, something in the bag has been linked to cancer, so they have to provide that notice. I don't think there's much risk to you. Unless you're melting the bag to snort it or you plan on eating the bag. In that case, though, you'd have bigger problems than cancer.

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41 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

I was recently looking at a Sun Mountain Pantom Cart Bag. The specific one I was looking at is a prior generation, so it was about $60-$70 less expensive than this year's model. 

Anyway, I wasn't sure if I wanted to pick it up or not. Although, they did have a blue one in stock which is a huge point in it's favor. 

But then I saw a tag on the bag with this: prop65-graphic.jpg.8f3fe5673363cee47f541cf106a3211e.jpg

 

I was trying to figure out what that meant??? How would my golf bag cause cancer??? Is this really something I need wo worry about???? 

Should this tag be on every golf bag? Is Sun Mountain just going out of their way to warn me??? 

Anyone have any thoughts on this? 

 

It is from the California Prop 65 Law. The law identifies trace materials that have shown some carcinogenic properties with some at risk population. An example would the BPA, which is an additive in some plastics. So if the plastics used in a product contain BPA, they need the label. It does not mean that the golf bag will cause cancer.

Most companies will try to reformulate or revise their designs to get away from these materials, but it takes time. I would not worry about it. 

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Only a problem if you use that bag in California...….  Anywhere else, should be just fine...……...

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17 minutes ago, JGus said:

I think it's a California law to have those, I was in L.A. a few months ago and they had similar notices in Starbuck's about coffee, the person I was with who was from there said there are these types of notices popping up everywhere now in Cali. 

If you put the notices on everything, it's pretty much the same as labelling nothing. Because labels on stuff that's really dangerous will then be ignored. 

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It's my belief that just about everything can "lead" to some form of cancer. Up to, and including Mother's breast milk. 

These lables are a form protection from a multitude of possible law suits. 

In my travels, I have been exposed to radiation, chemicals, asbestos, sunshine, 2nd hand cigarette smoke, tire dust on freeways, and who knows what else. Nothing cancerous in my body so far.

My wife on the other hand, has spent 4 +/-decades working in sterile hospitals, including operating rooms. She has had 4 tumors removed in the past 4 years. Go figure. 

 

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7 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

I was recently looking at a Sun Mountain Pantom Cart Bag. The specific one I was looking at is a prior generation, so it was about $60-$70 less expensive than this year's model. 

Anyway, I wasn't sure if I wanted to pick it up or not. Although, they did have a blue one in stock which is a huge point in it's favor. 

But then I saw a tag on the bag with this: prop65-graphic.jpg.8f3fe5673363cee47f541cf106a3211e.jpg

 

I was trying to figure out what that meant??? How would my golf bag cause cancer??? Is this really something I need wo worry about???? 

Should this tag be on every golf bag? Is Sun Mountain just going out of their way to warn me??? 

Anyone have any thoughts on this? 

 

Yes.  It is a cover your a$$ statement due to the recent and ongoing legislation in the State of California.  

You will see placards on the entrance to hotels, buildings on to many things.  Their recent legislation has watered down the intent to the point that the warning is on everything so no one will take head of the real dangers.

We do a lot of business out in California, it is cheaper to put this type of warning on everything then pay for employees to monitor the regulations out there.

They also rely on whistleblower litigation for compliance.  There are Attorney firms that specialize in just doing this. 

And it is only getting worse

6 hours ago, boogielicious said:

It is from the California Prop 65 Law. The law identifies trace materials that have shown some carcinogenic properties with some at risk population. An example would the BPA, which is an additive in some plastics. So if the plastics used in a product contain BPA, they need the label. It does not mean that the golf bag will cause cancer.

Most companies will try to reformulate or revise their designs to get away from these materials, but it takes time. I would not worry about it. 

BPA has been approved by the FDA to be used in water bottles and such.  Bis-A (BPA) is not a carcinogen.

the issue with BPA is that China baby food formula produces would add it to their baby formula as a cheap filler to raise protein levels (memory maybe failing me on protein).  This rightfully so caused a lot of alarm when it was discovered and caused the anit BPA fit.

But BPA does not break down easily in water so it will run afoul of Prop 65 as Prop 65 also addresses California clean water rights.

 

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14 hours ago, djake said:

 

BPA has been approved by the FDA to be used in water bottles and such.  Bis-A (BPA) is not a carcinogen.

the issue with BPA is that China baby food formula produces would add it to their baby formula as a cheap filler to raise protein levels (memory maybe failing me on protein).  This rightfully so caused a lot of alarm when it was discovered and caused the anit BPA fit.

But BPA does not break down easily in water so it will run afoul of Prop 65 as Prop 65 also addresses California clean water rights.

 

I was giving and example of the need for labeling. I also have considerable experience in this area.

https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/fact-sheets/bisphenol-bpa

 

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21 hours ago, IowaGreg said:

Only a problem if you use that bag in California...….  Anywhere else, should be just fine...……...

Ugh. Someone I know uses that joke and it's lame every time.

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Like the boy that cried wolf that folks eventually ignored these warnings have the same effect. They are on almost everything, people pretty much ignore them

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On 10/12/2019 at 6:47 AM, boogielicious said:

I was giving and example of the need for labeling. I also have considerable experience in this area.

https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/fact-sheets/bisphenol-bpa

 

I read your example as BPA is a carcinogen.  BPA is not a carcinogen, there is a mountain of evidence that supports this.

@boogielicious what do you do?  PM me if you want.  What is your experience with Prop 65?  Have you worked thru SB 258 yet?  Always looking for insight from someone else.  California is a regulatory nightmare.

I have been in the coatings industry since 1985 and own a coatings & chemical manufacturing company.  California compliance is our Number #1 goal as then you are compliant with the rest of the USA.

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1 hour ago, AlDena said:

California causes cancer.

80.9 years = expected CA lifespan (only beaten by Hawaii)

78.6 years = National Average

 

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With the exception of the last two years, when it dropped due to spikes in opioid deaths, life expectancy in the US has generally been increasing.

 

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