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On 2/2/2023 at 2:52 AM, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather #57:

Let's pretend the rules of golf suddenly change and you can add a 15th club to your bag.

Would You Rather:

Add an additional club to the top of your bag (i.e. An extra driver, another fairway wood or hybrid, or even a long iron)? 

OR

Add an additional club to the bottom of your bag (i.e. An extra short iron, an extra wedge or even an extra putter)? 

BTW - You can include the financial aspects in your decision (An extra wedge may be cheaper than an extra driver) or you can leave that out and pretend money is no object. Up to you. 

Last Spring I added a 5-wood and 7-wood, took out my old hybrid, and replaced 3 wedges with just 2.  So now I have a smaller gap near the top end, and a larger gap in my wedges range.  So at this stage, I'd re-work my wedges to eliminate that gap.

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Definitely hole out from the fairway twice a year for the rest of my life. An eagle on a par four is -2. A hole in one is -2. Two awesome shots/year would be something to look forward to forever.😃

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You know, immediately after I posted my previous post I started thinking I may have gotten it wrong, primarily because of the O-Value. I'll revisit that in a bit, though… Not that much lower.

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On 2/2/2023 at 5:52 AM, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather #57:

Let's pretend the rules of golf suddenly change and you can add a 15th club to your bag.

Would You Rather:

Add an additional club to the top of your bag (i.e. An extra driver, another fairway wood or hybrid, or even a long iron)? 

OR

Add an additional club to the bottom of your bag (i.e. An extra short iron, an extra wedge or even an extra putter)? 

BTW - You can include the financial aspects in your decision (An extra wedge may be cheaper than an extra driver) or you can leave that out and pretend money is no object. Up to you. 

I am not sure I want to carry a 15th club. I almost never use the 60 degree wedge I carry now. I have thought about leaving it in the car to make my bag lighter. 😄

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Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

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11 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

You come up with some good ones!  I will abstain from betting... that is a lose-lose situation.  I know I'm not supposed to go between the "horns of the bull".  So I will bet that the Mariners will be World Series Champions in 5 years...

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3 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

You come up with some good ones!  I will abstain from betting... that is a lose-lose situation.  I know I'm not supposed to go between the "horns of the bull".  So I will bet that the Mariners will be World Series Champions in 5 years...

Oh come on, @Double Mocha Man!

That wasn't an option. 

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2 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

I don’t want LIV to continue to fracture professional golf into two warring camps. There is no way I want to root for them to survive. I will throw my money away on the XFL.

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Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

 

Can I bet that neither will be around in 5 years?  If I had to choose one, I'd say XFL will be gone.   I'll bet my wife's dogs! (I just spent a day baby sitting them!)

 

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11 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

Hands down I would rather bet on LIV Golf being around.  They have more or less unlimited wealth backing them, have a mission (sports washing the Saudi image) and people dedicated to ensuring success

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14 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

XFL Baby! It’s the future of sparsely watched sport on ESPN The Ocho!

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18 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

I really wouldn't want to bet on either one, but I'd take the Saudis and LIV Golf in a pinch. Let's keep it small stakes please.

How many attempts have we had at pro football in the spring? Could be wrong, but I don't think any of them have lasted more than three years. Isn't there an attempt at another USFL happening right now to draw away from the XFL. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. 

My gamble is that the Saudis both have the money to burn and are stubborn enough to keep feeding it.

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20 minutes ago, mcanadiens said:

My gamble is that the Saudis both have the money to burn and are stubborn enough to keep feeding it.

^^^ This. I think people underestimate how much money the Saudis have and are ok with burning to keep this thing going.

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20 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

Unfortunately, I think @mcanadiens has the right answer. The Saudis do have tons of money and seem dead set on making this happen. 

Having typed that, I'm taking a wild flier on the XFL making it. If for no other reason that I'm anti-LIV Golf and don't want to bet on them. Perhaps I can talk myself into the XFL by mentioning the rise of Sports-Betting in America and that pro-football sees by far the biggest share of the betting action. Or by saying with NIL and the transfer portal messing around with college football and realignment forever on the horizon. Or by saying that this XFL is actually trying to align itself with the NFL rather than fight against it. Maybe if we take all of that into account a case could be made that the XFL does have a legit chance to make it and I'm not just trying to talk myself into it because I want LIV Golf to go away. ... Or, maybe not. 

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20 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

This is tough but I'd place my bet on the XFL, but the bet would be like $20 (that matters to me).

While the PIF is basically a bottomless pit of money, I don't believe that the people or person running the fund are so stubborn that they will keep lighting millions or billions on fire so LIV can succeed regardless of cost. LIV isn't a success financially...yet. At a certain point, LIV may become an embarrassment to the Saudi fund, if it isn't already.

I read that MBS and the Saudis don't believe that they can sportswash the image of the regime, and that the sportswashing goal is to attract business/tourism to compete with regional rivals (I might be getting a bit wrong, I think it was from the New Yorker article, or maybe an interview with someone from that article). Anyhow, I think that at a certain point, if there are not sound financials, and LIV continues to be a dud/embarrassing product, I can see them quickly cutting losses and finding another way to achieve these goals.

That said, I haven't watched any of the new XFL yet. Maybe it sucks too.

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On 2/27/2023 at 4:22 PM, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

Let’s see - LIV (imho) is nothing more than a barnstormer show of “pro-golf”.  Exhibition shows have their season and then the excitement wanes and it disappears into obscurity with a few hangers on that try to keep it going.  The Saudis will tire and eventually will “dump”’them for a new kid in town (that everyone will be talking about).   Meanwhile the XFL will eventually fail as well for our culture equates football with cool weather in the fall/early winter.  Interestingly enough, I’ve watched neither and am not drawn to do so.  So who do I feel maybe around in 5 years - an amount of money that matters (depends on the day of the month) - as much as I don’t like the environment LIV has created, their backers will still be in the game 5yrs from now.  

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On 2/27/2023 at 1:22 PM, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

Good one. I think they'll both fail. So I'd bet LIV since it's the one with the magic money behind it. As long as MBS still thinks it's a good idea or is a fun pet project or whatever, it'll be here no matter how badly it's failed as a product.

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On 2/27/2023 at 4:22 PM, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

Unfortunately I’d go with LIV. The XFL is under similar pressure as other projects are in this capacity. Competing against the NFL is tough. I have zero interest in the XFL. They don’t have the financial backing that LIV does. They’ll give the XFL maybe two seasons to gain interest. If it’s not generating enough…they’ll drop it. Norman has really fooled the Saudis into thinking he’s  doing this for the good of golf and to improve the reputation of SA. It’s just his narcissistic vendetta against the PGA TOUR that he’s pursuing. 

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Would You Rather Number 59:

Let's do something not very controversial here: You are going to wear a t-shirt today: 

Would you rather: 

Wear a V-Neck T-shirt?
or 
Wear a Crew-Neck T-shirt? 

My bag is an ever-changing combination of clubs. 

A mix I am forever tinkering with. 

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On 2/27/2023 at 4:22 PM, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 58:

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that LIV Golf will still be here in 5 years?
OR...

Would you rather bet an amount of money that matters to you that The XFL will still be here in 5 years? 

First, I would prefer to bet that Neither are here in 5 years.  XFL initially begain in 2001 and played 1 season, restearted in 2020 but never completed due to COVID and went bankrupt, then re-started in 2023.  History of it is not good.  As for LIV, I really do not care for it and would love to see it gone but there is a lot of money behind it so it could survive if PIF wanted it to.  I figure if the PGA-Tour/PIF deal falls through then LIV may stick around for a while but if the deal does happen I suspect LIV will have a short life.   THus my preferred bet would be "Neither is here in 5 years"

But to get off the fence I will bet that LIV is here in 5 years since to me that is higher odds of happening then the XFL being here in 5 years.

Note to all, I am a significnatly bad gambler and my friends do real well simply taking the oppposite side of any bet I make. 

24 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 59:

Let's do something not very controversial here: You are going to wear a t-shirt today: 

Would you rather: 

Wear a V-Neck T-shirt?
or 
Wear a Crew-Neck T-shirt? 

Crew Neck

Edited by StuM
Fixed some of my all too frequent typos

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