Would You Rather…?

[WillieT]

Would You Rather # 50

This one is based on something I deal with each time I swing the club.  For me it’s a  transmet amputation / skin grafts on the left (lead) foot from a motorcycle wreck. Likewise we have all heard about Tiger’s struggle with his rebuilt right ankle / leg since his wreck.  I am sure he feels it on every swing. So here’s the question- Would you rather:

(1) Have to deal with a lead foot you cannot fully load (get weight forward).

or

(2) Have to deal with a trail foot/leg you cannot fully load (get weight back) to push off. 

[David L Yskes]

1 hour ago, WillieT said:

Would You Rather # 50

This one is based on something I deal with each time I swing the club.  For me it’s a  transmet amputation / skin grafts on the left (lead) foot from a motorcycle wreck. Likewise we have all heard about Tiger’s struggle with his rebuilt right ankle / leg since his wreck.  I am sure he feels it on every swing. So here’s the question- Would you rather:

(1) Have to deal with a lead foot you cannot fully load (get weight forward).

or

(2) Have to deal with a trail foot/leg you cannot fully load (get weight back) to push off. 

I think i'd rather have to deal with #2.  

Because i think you could find ways to compensate for not being able to fully load up on your trail foot/leg, by lifting weights, lighter driver shaft, and such..  if you loose the ability to put weight on your front leg, you are really limiting what you can do with your swing or trying to make certain shots..       

And I've seen plenty of videos on youtube, with instructors doing one leg swing drills, and you are always using your front leg..  

 

[ChetlovesMer]

5 hours ago, WillieT said:

Would You Rather # 50

This one is based on something I deal with each time I swing the club.  For me it’s a  transmet amputation / skin grafts on the left (lead) foot from a motorcycle wreck. Likewise we have all heard about Tiger’s struggle with his rebuilt right ankle / leg since his wreck.  I am sure he feels it on every swing. So here’s the question- Would you rather:

(1) Have to deal with a lead foot you cannot fully load (get weight forward).

or

(2) Have to deal with a trail foot/leg you cannot fully load (get weight back) to push off. 

Number 2. There's no doubt in my mind. 

Having said that I have a friend who had his lead leg amputated from the knee down about 30 years ago. He plays to a single digit and doesn't complain or make any excuses. 

[iacas]

5 hours ago, WillieT said:

Would You Rather # 50

This one is based on something I deal with each time I swing the club.  For me it’s a  transmet amputation / skin grafts on the left (lead) foot from a motorcycle wreck. Likewise we have all heard about Tiger’s struggle with his rebuilt right ankle / leg since his wreck.  I am sure he feels it on every swing. So here’s the question- Would you rather:

(1) Have to deal with a lead foot you cannot fully load (get weight forward).

or

(2) Have to deal with a trail foot/leg you cannot fully load (get weight back) to push off. 

Since you don't "push off" the trail leg at all, the second thing.

[billchao]

6 hours ago, WillieT said:

Would You Rather # 50

This one is based on something I deal with each time I swing the club.  For me it’s a  transmet amputation / skin grafts on the left (lead) foot from a motorcycle wreck. Likewise we have all heard about Tiger’s struggle with his rebuilt right ankle / leg since his wreck.  I am sure he feels it on every swing. So here’s the question- Would you rather:

(1) Have to deal with a lead foot you cannot fully load (get weight forward).

or

(2) Have to deal with a trail foot/leg you cannot fully load (get weight back) to push off. 

Second one, easily. I can make swings with my trail foot on a dolly putting very little pressure on it at all.

[WillieT]

17 hours ago, WillieT said:

Would You Rather # 50

This one is based on something I deal with each time I swing the club.  For me it’s a  transmet amputation / skin grafts on the left (lead) foot from a motorcycle wreck. Likewise we have all heard about Tiger’s struggle with his rebuilt right ankle / leg since his wreck.  I am sure he feels it on every swing. So here’s the question- Would you rather:

(1) Have to deal with a lead foot you cannot fully load (get weight forward).

or

(2) Have to deal with a trail foot/leg you cannot fully load (get weight back) to push off. 

Since I asked , I need to reply.  Option 2 for me as option 1 has been what I have had / am having / will have to deal with. The body has its own defense mechanism that say “Oh no you don’t”, so there is a lot of relying on the trail foot to carry the load (hence my “pushing off comment” as I was going all drag car and loading the rear leg (like a dragster does the rear tires) to make the downswing).  Learning to trust that I can get decent weight forward has been a tough trail.  Thanks to the lessons/advice here, I am slowly getting there.  

[Carl3]

12 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Number 2. There's no doubt in my mind. 

Having said that I have a friend who had his lead leg amputated from the knee down about 30 years ago. He plays to a single digit and doesn't complain or make any excuses. 

As a teen I had the opportunity to play with two HC people, who were each missing a leg. The one guy was in his 60's and used a crutch on his lead arm and swung one-handed with his right (trail arm). The flight was low (think of the shaft lean on a swing like that), consistent, and down the middle. I would guess that his carry was about 100 yards, but I think he got a bit of roll.

The next guy was absolutely remarkable. He was playing with his two sons when I caugtht up with him on hole 14. He was in his 40's, barrell-chested, and had one leg that was like a tree trunk. He some how jumped out of the cart hopped up to the tee and put is driver out there, right down the middle and well over 200 yard. I was so flabbergasted I don't recall if he put the tee in the ground himself or if one of his boys did it for him.

Me? I did the usual and sliced one into the woods. This guy had the most amazing balance. This was rural Ohio and there were Amish and Mennonite in the area. He and his boys were dressed like Mennonite. I think that was nearly as fascinating as his golf ability.

About pushing off with the trail leg, consider this:

I am a mechanical engineer by training, but absolutely abhorred kinematics. I am a thermal, fluids kingd of guy. Recent discussion has got me trying to understand and properly think about the trail leg after reaching the top. Any help appreciated.

 

Edited May 22, 2022 by Carl3

[iacas]

15 minutes ago, Carl3 said:

About pushing off with the trail leg, consider this:

We have a topic for this.

Golfers do not really “push off their trail leg.”

[ChetlovesMer]

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

[Vinsk]

1 minute ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

The second. Three hours early. I have to hit some balls and mentally prepare for the possibility it’ll be a shank infested day. If it’s a new course I have to consider what homes, cars and people are in danger. This takes time.

[mcanadiens]

39 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

Most of the time, I'll take just in time to play. My normal group is casual enough that I'm not too fussed about results. Plus, who has three hours to burn?

An exception to this might come if I'm traveling a distance to a course I'm not familiar with and playing with people that I don't know. Really, my traveling days are mostly over at this point anyway, but I hate being late to things I've committed to.

 

[boogielicious]

1 hour ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

Because I have friends who routinely do the first choice, I take the second choice. I assume there’s a practice green at least.

[WillieT]

2 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

Have done the first way too many times…😁!  My son is notorious for us just getting there to load the cart and go.

Actually prefer the latter, like having time to warm up.  Food is a non-issue, give me somewhere to chip and putt and in can be happy whilst I wait.  

[Darkfrog]

2 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

#1

My personal time is too valuable to waste 3 hours. I had to wait close to 3 hours once due to a lightning delay and it was miserable. I guess one could argue that I could spend 3 hours practicing putting, short game, and full swing, but if I did that I'm sure I would suffer from golf fatigue by the time the round started.

[billchao]

3 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

#1 is close to what I do anyway. I’m ready to play as soon as I put tee to ground.

[dennyjones]

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

 

I like to have about 45 minutes  prior to playing but would definitely not want to wait around 3 hours before playing.     I'd definitely have to go with the first option.  

[ChetlovesMer]

21 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Would You Rather Number 51: 
 

Would you rather...

Show up at the course with not enough time to get ready to play? You have just enough time to get from your car to the first tee, maybe take a few practice swings and that's about all.

or 

Show up at the course with way too much time to get ready? Let's say 3 hours early? And just for fun let's pretend the course has no bar or restaurant. You can get water or snacks, but no "real" food. 

And in case it matters let's say your buddies with which you are playing all show up about 40 minutes before your tee-time. 

Having done both, I can honestly say it kind of depends on what I have going on that day. If, by some miracle, I had nothing important to do that day. I'd really have no problem getting to the course 3 hours early. I could putt, chip, hit balls, I enjoy practicing and don't think I'd have any trouble killing 3 hours. By the same token I've actually played one of my best rounds showing up and walking to the first tee. Although, in truth as I get older this seems to be harder and harder to do. 

If I had to choose, I'd spend 3 hours practicing. 

[KMP]

The first option and it's not even close.  I might hang out 3 hours after, but if I somehow showed up 3 hours before I would figure out a way to play early.