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How Many Wedges Do You Carry?

How many wedges do you carry?  

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  1. 1. How many wedges do you carry?

    • 0 - What's a wedge?
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    • 1 - I have my trusty Niblick and that's all I need.
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    • 2 - Doesn't matter which two, but you'd think it would be PW and SW
      3
    • 3 - Very common set up through the 80's and 90's.
      6
    • 4 - Its good to have options
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    • 5 - More options or is it because your PW is so delofted you had to stick in another gap wedge?
      3
    • 6 or more - If you answer this, you'd better explain why.
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I carry a 50 and a 54.  The pitching wedge has the same loft and bounce as my old 9 iron so, like @billchao said, it doesn't count.  I was lugging a 58 around but hardly ever used it.  

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1 hour ago, billchao said:

No, I'm saying it's exactly like my 9i but with more loft. There are no wedge-like elements to it at all and calling it a "wedge" is a bit of a misnomer IMO.

What is a “wedge-like element”?
 

Other than a few degrees change in loft, my current 46° PW today looks virtually identical to the PW I carried 40 years ago...

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47 minutes ago, David in FL said:

What is a “wedge-like element”?

Bounce, grind, sole, head shape, weight.

If I handed you a 46° Edel wedge and my 46° MP4 PW the difference would be plain to see. One is more like an iron and the other more like a wedge.

52 minutes ago, David in FL said:

Other than a few degrees change in loft, my current 46° PW today looks virtually identical to the PW I carried 40 years ago...

That's because the PW being basically a 10 iron isn't a modern design concept. I think it's only called a wedge because back in the day they called the highest lofted irons wedges. But they had all sorts of weird names for clubs back then and my golf equipment history isn't the greatest.

But my point is, today there is definitely a distinction between a wedge head and an iron head, design-wise. Most people's pitching wedges are irons IMO.

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5 minutes ago, billchao said:

 

If I handed you a 46° Edel wedge and my 46° MP4 PW the difference would be plain to see. One is more like an iron and the other more like a wedge.

 

And they’re both wedges.  Just as a SGI 5-iron and your MP4 5-iron are both irons.

 

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4 hours ago, billchao said:

No, I'm saying it's exactly like my 9i but with more loft. There are no wedge-like elements to it at all and calling it a "wedge" is a bit of a misnomer IMO.

Dang! I was hoping you had one of these:

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1 hour ago, billchao said:

But my point is, today there is definitely a distinction between a wedge head and an iron head, design-wise. Most people's pitching wedges are irons IMO.

Neither statement is a hard fact in every case. But I understand what you mean.

One question, when you get greenside and you realize you left the club you need in your bag. If your playing partner is right by the cart about to walk toward you, would you say to him/her "Hey, on your way over would you grab my Pitching Wedge?" Or would you say to him/her "Hey, on your way over would you grab my 10 iron?" ? 

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1 hour ago, David in FL said:

And they’re both wedges.  Just as a SGI 5-iron and your MP4 5-iron are both irons.

My PW is a lot more similar to my 9i than my GW.

30 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

One question, when you get greenside and you realize you left the club you need in your bag. If your playing partner is right by the cart about to walk toward you, would you say to him/her "Hey, on your way over would you grab my Pitching Wedge?" Or would you say to him/her "Hey, on your way over would you grab my 10 iron?" ?

Not sure what the point of this question is. The obvious answer is whatever gets the club I want in my hands most efficiently.

I'm not going to tell my partner to grab my 10 iron when he's not going to know what the hell I'm talking about and the club is stamped with a P on the bottom. Just like now I won't ask someone to grab my sand wedge or my 55° because it has "LV" stamped on it, I'll ask for my "LV" wedge. When I play with my Hogans, I have to ask for the "Equalizer" and not my pitching wedge or my partner will spend 5 minutes looking for it.

And none of this changes the fact that I still call my pitching wedge a "pitching wedge" despite how I feel about its design and (lack of) versatility. It's just the name of the tool. And no, I don't count it as one of my 3 wedges.

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I guess I've never really given it much thought if the pitching wedge was a wedge or not.   I have a PW at 43.5°, AW at 49°, SW at 54.5° and LW at 58.5°.   

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Just now, dennyjones said:

I guess I've never really given it much thought if the pitching wedge was a wedge or not.   I have a PW at 43.5°, AW at 49°, SW at 54.5° and LW at 58.5°.   

Most people haven't; I'm weird like that.

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2 minutes ago, billchao said:

My PW is a lot more similar to my 9i than my GW.

 

And my GW is more similar to your PW than it is to a SGI 9-iron.  Is my GW not a wedge?  

I keep it simple.  If it says wedge on it, I consider it a wedge.  :-D

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8 minutes ago, David in FL said:

And my GW is more similar to your PW than it is to a SGI 9-iron.  Is my GW not a wedge?

Trick question. A chipper is not a wedge 😜

8 minutes ago, David in FL said:

I keep it simple.  If it says wedge on it, I consider it a wedge.  :-D

But my pitching wedge doesn't say wedge on it, it just says "P" and none of my wedges say wedge on them either, so they're not wedges? Does your driver say "driver" on it? 😉

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10 minutes ago, billchao said:

Trick question. A chipper is not a wedge 😜

But my pitching wedge doesn't say wedge on it, it just says "P" and none of my wedges say wedge on them either, so they're not wedges? Does your driver say "driver" on it? 😉

I’ll rephrase. If the manufacturer calls it a wedge I’ll do the same.  I just don’t find any need to redefine something that is already well defined.  

I expect that the OP defines a pitching wedge as a wedge too.  If not, he can let us know and everyone but you can change their answer.  :-D
 

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14 minutes ago, billchao said:

But my pitching wedge doesn't say wedge on it, it just says "P" and none of my wedges say wedge on them either, so they're not wedges? Does your driver say "driver" on it? 😉

Quick quiz: Is this a wedge or an iron?

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Hmm... It has a "W" which seems to imply wedge, but it's built like a game improvement iron?

It's a W-iron? Maybe?

3 minutes ago, David in FL said:

I expect that the OP defines a pitching wedge as a wedge too.  If not, he can let us know and everyone but you can change their answer.  :-D

Yeah, I pretty much call a pitching wedge a wedge. But it's cool. If @billchao doesn't like calling a pitching wedge a wedge, he can call it what ever he likes. 

I was just curious how many folks were going with the 4 wedge (or 3 wedge, plus a 10-iron) system. I really didn't think it was going to be a controversial thread. 

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7 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

I really didn't think it was going to be a controversial thread. 

Now you did it.   Bring in the boats!😉

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My two PWs have a "P" stamp in them. Both are 48* degrees, purchased 10 years apart from each other. Same brand/company, but different styles. They both play the same for me

That said I have seen some older clubs in the 46*-49* degree range, with the number "10" stamped in them. 

Wedges, or irons, it doesn't really matter. They are all just tools, with a specific use, based on the golfer's talent level.

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PW (46*); GW (52*); a 56* and a SW (58*). I know the yardage for each, using my 56* or the 58* depends a lot on the lie if not in a trap. I tend to hit the 58* more even though it is a SW with a large sole.

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14 hours ago, billchao said:

Bounce, grind, sole, head shape, weight.

If I handed you a 46° Edel wedge and my 46° MP4 PW the difference would be plain to see. One is more like an iron and the other more like a wedge.

That's because the PW being basically a 10 iron isn't a modern design concept. I think it's only called a wedge because back in the day they called the highest lofted irons wedges. But they had all sorts of weird names for clubs back then and my golf equipment history isn't the greatest.

Starting in 1974, I played for some 20 years with MacGregor MT irons. The set ran 2i-10i. The 10i got used as a PW, but it had certain drawbacks because it was designed as an iron head. While great for full and half shots, it could be iffy for short touch shots around the green. The head had a sharp leading edge, and would sometimes dig in too much and leave the approach short.

I found a MacGregor SW that had some flange-bounce to it - actually an old split-, or step-sole, and this worked better for touch shots. And, it was great for greenside cut shots in the pre-LW era. (And, it was solid out of bunkers)

As non-blade iron heads became more popular in 1980s, rounded leading edges and cambered soles showed up in many clubhead models, both numbered irons and wedges.

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