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Looking like ball buried into wet ground?

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11 minutes ago, colin007 said:

Anyone else enjoy the sight of BDC being driven back to the tee to reload as much as I do?

JUICE BOY takes a 7 on the shortest par 4 at ANGC.

I think you and I share a lot of pros I don't like....let's see how many you agree with.

PGA or pros who also played on the PGA...obviously I'll be forgetting some

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15 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

Looking like ball buried into wet ground?

Soft ground, yeah.

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3 minutes ago, Mr22putt said:

JUICE BOY takes a 7 on the shortest par 4 at ANGC.

I think you and I share a lot of pros I don't like....let's see how many you agree with.

PGA or pros who also played on the PGA...obviously I'll be forgetting some

Weir....major GOOF.....Tom Watson, Curtis Strange, Bubba, Zach J, Jimmy Walker, cheap a** Kuch

LPGA

Wie, Creamer, Stacy Lewis, Christina Kim, Kerr

Bit off topic here. Focus on the tournament please.

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6 minutes ago, iacas said:

Soft ground, yeah.

Would patrons have been in the landing area?

Is the casual water question a stretch or legitimate? Sounds like a stretch? It didn't look puddle-ly.

17 minutes ago, colin007 said:

NO

Lol. So close.

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6 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

Is the casual water question a stretch or legitimate? Sounds like a stretch? It didn't look puddle-ly.

Several nit-picky points:

  • No such thing as casual water anymore.
  • Temporary water doesn't have to be a "puddle."
  • You have to have virtual certainty it's in the area with temporary water. Like a credible witness could say "I saw it splash in this area of wet mud right here." You don't have to dig through the mud to find it.

I don't think spectators can get up on that side of #3 very well, but they could have certainly directed everyone to a smaller area to search.

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5 minutes ago, Beastie said:

That’s a bit of bad luck for BDC. 

They found his ball on 13 yesterday after he hit a provisional in the creek, so, I think he's square.

Just now, colin007 said:

I feel like I've asked this before, but is that driving chute on 18 as skinny as it looks?

I would say "no."

So glad Paul Casey changed his shirt.

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Just now, aannddyy00 said:

Its a tremendous look. 

If you want to look like Bill Murray.

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6 minutes ago, aannddyy00 said:

The lack of grandstands is wonderful. 

15 is so much better. 

Everywhere is so much better.

I will miss the sounds on Sunday. Can ANGC pipe those in with the bird noises?

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