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16 minutes ago, Ole Duffer said:

First Amendment.

"This is a gold forum after all."

What's a "Gold" forum?

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It’s a golf forum.  And you are not entitled to The Sand Trap as a First Amendment right; this is a privately run site where the owner(s) have a right to run it in the ways they see fit. They are extremely permissive/gracious in how they run it; they have generally wanted people to get to know each other by participating in a variety of discussions on all parts of our lives, I’d assume that was the purpose of the comment.

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3 hours ago, jmanbooyaa said:

Obvious agenda. @Old Duffer if you are that worried stay home, lock yourself indoors. 
 

Stay at home order? Joke! Pay people to stay home? Keep your socialism crap to yourself. Golf forum, not CNN. 

Let’s not go political please.

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1 hour ago, Ole Duffer said:

First Amendment.

As another poster mentioned, the First Amendment only applies to the federal government and, through incorporation via the Fourteenth Amendment, to the state governments.  It does not apply to private actors, such as this forum.

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4 hours ago, Ole Duffer said:

First Amendment.

Read the guidelines. Particularly, click the xkcd link at bottom.

https://thesandtrap.com/guidelines

Post elsewhere, man.

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On 12/6/2020 at 11:53 PM, iacas said:

Read the guidelines. Particularly, click the xkcd link at bottom.

https://thesandtrap.com/guidelines

Post elsewhere, man.

Thank you.  I don't always agree with you but I certainly respect you, your opinion and integrity.

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Regardless, this is the COVID thread, and yesterday the US set another record.

The United States reported 3,124 coronavirus-related deaths Wednesday, the highest single-day total of the pandemic, according to Johns Hopkins University.

That brings the total number of Covid-19 fatalities recorded in the country to at least 289,373.

Another 221,267 cases were also reported on Wednesday, bringing the country's total to at least 15,386,562, according to JHU's tally.

My prayers go out to all who have been affected, and, doubly so to the healthcare workers who are fighting this battle.

😷 

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20 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

We have to watch out with the death totals for the day. A lot of data is backlogged or not submitted daily. I would look at the data on more of a 7 day total. That would flatten it out a bit. 

100% correct, I just took a look at the CDC statistics.  Weekends are really clear, as many fewer deaths and new cases are reported on weekends.  Even so, the 7-day average numbers are steadily rising.  For reference:

corona-interactive_cases_trends.jpg

Find national and local rates for COVID cases and deaths in the United States.

 

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Well, my wife and I are starting isolation for a few days. Found out a family member who we last saw 7 days ago got sick Wednesday and tested positive. Cdc updated that if we test today/tomorrow and are negative or go 10 days without symptoms from last contact, we are good to go. Haven’t had any symptoms, so we are hopeful.

Time to set up my golf net for a few days. 

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10 minutes ago, phillyk said:

Well, my wife and I are starting isolation for a few days. Found out a family member who we last saw 7 days ago got sick Wednesday and tested positive. Cdc updated that if we test today/tomorrow and are negative or go 10 days without symptoms from last contact, we are good to go. Haven’t had any symptoms, so we are hopeful.

Time to set up my golf net for a few days. 

Good luck, Phil.  Let us know as soon as you two test negative.

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2 hours ago, phillyk said:

Well, my wife and I are starting isolation for a few days. Found out a family member who we last saw 7 days ago got sick Wednesday and tested positive. Cdc updated that if we test today/tomorrow and are negative or go 10 days without symptoms from last contact, we are good to go. Haven’t had any symptoms, so we are hopeful.

Time to set up my golf net for a few days. 

Good to hear you are staying home. 

You will be saving some ones life.

I can't spend time bargaining/debating stats. 

Real folks are dying and our hospitals are almost unable to help the non covid cases.

My individual rights-is to do my part to help the society that has been so good to me. 

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One of my wife's classmates, 65-ish and pillar of their small rural community, died in a far-away hospital.  They had a big church funeral, no masks.

At the same time, his wife died in the far-away hospital.

Yesterday was my wife's BD, and she wanted to go to Chili's for our regular shared fajitas.  I just couldn't let us let our guard down when we have done so good, an end being in sight.

So we ordered them To Go, and had a nice evening at home.

We're putting off going to our Florida home, but our Minnysoduh Snowbird friends got there and opened the house for us a couple days ago.  This 25° and white stuff is not to our liking.  But, we have some unfinished projects, and Florida will still be there, maybe, when they're done.

Florida is wasted on old people.  

😷

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Good news on Moderna's efficacy: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/health/covid-moderna-vaccine.html

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The federal government signed deals last summer with Moderna and Pfizer to deliver a total of 200 million doses in the first quarter of 2021. Because both vaccines require two doses, those contracts guaranteed enough doses for 100 million people.

Last week the government announced that it had [purchased another 100 million doses from Moderna for the second quarter, increasing the number of Americans who can be vaccinated to 150 million. But that still leaves the question of how and when the roughly 180 million other Americans will be covered.

And that.

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On 12/13/2020 at 8:24 AM, phillyk said:

Well, my wife and I are starting isolation for a few days. Found out a family member who we last saw 7 days ago got sick Wednesday and tested positive. Cdc updated that if we test today/tomorrow and are negative or go 10 days without symptoms from last contact, we are good to go. Haven’t had any symptoms, so we are hopeful.

Time to set up my golf net for a few days. 

Wife and I came back negative. I can return to the course. 

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22 minutes ago, phillyk said:

Wife and I came back negative. I can return to the course. 

Wonderful.  My wife and I have each had potential exposures, and tested negative.  Even though the potential contact in each case was pretty limited, and  we felt confident that we didn't have it, it was a relief to get the test results.

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