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COVID-19 Practice Plan Challenge - April 1-30 2020

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32 minutes ago, chspeed said:

One thing I noticed on the Advanced Shoulder Tilt drill, is that when you took full practice swings, your torso and head appear to moving forward quite a bit as you rotate through.

Drills often exaggerate things so you can feel them more/better.

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

BTW, if you do the practice plan and post at least a few of your videos here (there's no reason we can't keep this topic going), give yourself the award/badge, too.

Who is doing this 30-day stuff right now? Even if you did it in April and you're doing only a few of the drills that still apply to you, let's hear it? Let's see some more videos.

(It's helpful since it's been awhile if you link to the post with the video you're referring to, or link to the day at https://golfevolution.com/30-day-plan/, which will look like this for day 16: https://golfevolution.com/30-day-plan/#day16.)

I've been jumping around based on what I think I should focus on for the last few weeks.

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I've watched and did a couple of the lessons in the past month.  Seems like a great off-season / back to the basics refresher that I will hopefully utilize all 30 days of this winter.

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I've been incorporating the key drills that relate to my main issues into my 5M daily practice challenge. 

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I really enjoyed this video. My question is, what position do you typically find yourself trying an extreme flop shot?

does the lie change your mind even though the position has you wanting to take this type of shot? Thx

 

 

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16 minutes ago, DewSweeper09 said:

I really enjoyed this video. My question is, what position do you typically find yourself trying an extreme flop shot?

does the lie change your mind even though the position has you wanting to take this type of shot? Thx

You have to consider everything about the shot. The positions where you need this type of shot are, IMO, kind of obvious, aren't they? It's for a time when you have to get the ball up, land it softly (like, nearly vertically), and not fly very far horizontally.

The point of the video is to show you how to go toward more loft from the standard pitch, so you can apply this for a 30-yard pitch, sometimes, too.

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Obvious?

well, I guess I was asking about particular position + lie. Sometimes the lie seems tighter so interested in abandon, or adjust but go forward with flop. Apologize if I wasn’t clear on my question.

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3 minutes ago, DewSweeper09 said:

Obvious?

Yeah, right?

You don't need a super flop shot if you're 40 yards from the hole with 30 yards of green to work with.

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Let me try to ask in a different way.

If you are faced with an obvious flop shot scenario, what would you do different with a) tight lie b) narly thick grass lie. Abandon the flop and opt for something different instead? Or still go forward?

im asking, I feel it was the one aspect of my game I left a couple strokes out there recently, second guessing if I chose the right shot.

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3 minutes ago, DewSweeper09 said:

 

Let me try to ask in a different way.

If you are faced with an obvious flop shot scenario, what would you do different with a) tight lie b) narly thick grass lie. Abandon the flop and opt for something different instead? Or still go forward?

Unless your name is Phil I wouldn't try a flop shot from a tight lie.

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Fair enough. So you’re in an “obvious” flop shot position. What do you do? Example. Short sided on lower hill. Your saying abandon the flop, and chip it up and accept the ball rolling out and have a very long putt. Not risking it to get closer. I’m genuinely curious. The video where he opens up big looks like it could be hit from a tight lie. I typically use a bunker shot type approach on thick stuff. 
 

I seriously left a few strokes out there and want to improve on that. 

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10 minutes ago, DewSweeper09 said:

Fair enough. So you’re in an “obvious” flop shot position. What do you do? Example. Short sided on lower hill. Your saying abandon the flop, and chip it up and accept the ball rolling out and have a very long putt. Not risking it to get closer. I’m genuinely curious. The video where he opens up big looks like it could be hit from a tight lie. I typically use a bunker shot type approach on thick stuff. 
 

I seriously left a few strokes out there and want to improve on that. 

The bunker shot technique can work... in gnarly grass greenside... hit 1 to 2 inches behind ball with face open.  I've used it on occasion.   Otherwise keep those doubles and triples off the scorecard.  Discretion is the better part of valor.

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Thanks.

I guess I still need to figure out, either work harder on hitting flop from tight lie... or abandon in that situation and practice a pitch from an obvious flop position.

I played well and scored well, but this particular circumstance came a few times.last few rounds and sometimes I’m left thinking I go to flop too often when lie doesn’t warrant it. I’m willing to put in the time. I was thinking about practicing like opening up more in the video. But then started thinking, maybe practice pitch from those positions I want to flop instead. 
 

I also want to teach my little boy the right thing to do. For a little guy flop shots are already intimidating even with good lie.

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On 10/8/2020 at 8:41 PM, DewSweeper09 said:

Thanks.

I guess I still need to figure out, either work harder on hitting flop from tight lie... or abandon in that situation and practice a pitch from an obvious flop position.

I played well and scored well, but this particular circumstance came a few times.last few rounds and sometimes I’m left thinking I go to flop too often when lie doesn’t warrant it. I’m willing to put in the time. I was thinking about practicing like opening up more in the video. But then started thinking, maybe practice pitch from those positions I want to flop instead. 
 

I also want to teach my little boy the right thing to do. For a little guy flop shots are already intimidating even with good lie.

I think part of your back and forth goes to some definitions.  A pitch (at least in this forum) is a shot played so that the bounce of the club is lower than the leading edge at impact.  A flop is an extreme variation of a pitch shot, not something completely different.  More extreme variations are, in my experience, also more difficult to execute, with a much wider variability in outcomes.  The more open the clubface, and the greater the clubhead speed required, the more "perfect" the lie has to be for most of us.  For me, and I'm a decent player, I want to have a little grass under the ball in order to make a real "flop" as viable option.  Its tough to hit one well from a tight lie, and the chances of blading it over the green are increased.  So from a truly tight lie, I'll use a shot with a greater margin for error, and accept that even a perfectly executed shot won't be right next to the pin.  From a really thick lie I'd give the flop shot a go, I like using an open face and plenty of speed in those situations.

On 10/8/2020 at 8:25 PM, DewSweeper09 said:

The video where he opens up big looks like it could be hit from a tight lie

There's no question that it CAN be hit from tight lies.  But remember that @iacas is a pretty good player, most of us won't consistently hit as good a shot from that position.  Best thing to do is to practice the flop shot from tight lies (make sure you're hitting away from anyone else), both to improve your repertoire of shots and to understand your own limitations.

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