Carry or Push?

[iacas]

3 minutes ago, billchao said:

I still disagree with this.

It's not really an opinion Bill.

3 minutes ago, billchao said:

Bollocks. (I always wanted to use that word )

Not bollocks.

3 minutes ago, billchao said:

This is really the only point we're arguing and I wholeheartedly disagree.

Again, not really an opinion.

3 minutes ago, billchao said:

That's a lot more stress on my shoulder than a golf bag and if were an awkward position, you'd think I'd hurt my shoulder a lot more.

And yet some golfers never have back injuries, and others do. Some carpet installers get really bad knees, others don't.

For all the times you want to talk about experience and "anecdata" in other topics, you're saying this here now?

10 minutes ago, billchao said:

It's well within a perfectly natural range of motion for the shoulder.

So is throwing a baseball. Then why do all those MLB pitchers keep having injuries and surgeries?

10 minutes ago, billchao said:

"Leading to an increased chance of injury" can be interpreted as, "oh I better not do this because I'll hurt myself."

Nobody here is doing that, except you arguing against what you think other people might take it as.

I'm out.

[onthehunt526]

With all the shit I have in my bag, I never carry it, push cart all the way. The only time I carry is when I play left-handed. 😂

Edited May 23, 2020 by onthehunt526

[Bonvivant]

I see all the stuff about back/shoulder, but the reason I switched to push (over pull) was my wrists. I don't understand how you can put all that pressure on your wrists, over and over, and not feel it. Two wheelers are almost as bad as carrying.

[bkuehn1952]

I have always walked and carried.  I recognize that a good push cart requires less energy than carrying in almost all cases.  For me it is just habit though I was thinking about push carts recently as I am not getting any younger.

Carrying a bag does allow one to take a few short cuts.  It also feels easier when going up hill, perhaps because the push cart requires one to engage the arms and upper back.   And let's face it, carrying the bag looks cooler and more macho!  😉

[boogielicious]

21 hours ago, Vinsk said:

When I was 15 my dad was the dumbest guy I knew ....Now that I’m 20...I can’t believe the knowledge he’s gained in just 5 years.....

Mark Twain has a quip for everything!

22 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

Shouldn't the thread title be "Carry, Push or Caddie"?  Did Mary Queen of Scots have a caddie?

Yes, he was beheaded when she was for carrying one extra niblick.

[billchao]

So apparently I do pull my cart with my arm to my side. Guess that makes my argument about my shoulder moot, because I’m not pulling with my arm behind me at all.

Thats what I get for commenting on what I think I do rather than what I actually do 🤦🏻

5 hours ago, Bonvivant said:

I see all the stuff about back/shoulder, but the reason I switched to push (over pull) was my wrists. I don't understand how you can put all that pressure on your wrists, over and over, and not feel it. Two wheelers are almost as bad as carrying.

I don’t know about this one, though. I mean almost any pulling exercise you do is going to put more stress on your wrists than pulling a cart. I guarantee you can deadlift a lot more weight than the force your cart puts on your hands. Or doing pull-ups. Or simply hanging from a bar.

[Double Mocha Man]

6 hours ago, Bonvivant said:

I see all the stuff about back/shoulder, but the reason I switched to push (over pull) was my wrists. I don't understand how you can put all that pressure on your wrists, over and over, and not feel it. Two wheelers are almost as bad as carrying.

And a pull cart wobbles. You look like a duck from behind.

1 hour ago, bkuehn1952 said:

... I was thinking about push carts recently as I am not getting any younger.

Back in the day you thought about girls, now you think about push carts.

[Patch]

Push cart for me. My bag weighs well over 30lbs.

No need to put my back, and shoulders in harm's way hauling that weight around.

I do have a smaller bag with fewer clubs, and gear I will carry sometimes.  Not very often though. 

[Double Mocha Man]

48 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Yes, he was beheaded when she was for carrying one extra niblick.

Yes, the R&A was pretty draconian back in those days. Slightly less so now.

[bkuehn1952]

9 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Back in the day you thought about girls, now you think about push carts.

      😉

 

 

[colin007]

Push cart>>>>> carrying>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull cart

[billchao]

2 hours ago, colin007 said:

Push cart>>>>> carrying>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull cart

No, not by a long shot. Pulling > carrying.

[onthehunt526]

Like I said with all the shit in my bag I never carry it. I usually have 2 or 3 bottles of Gatorade a couple ice packs, a lunch, sometimes a couple beers. Pull carts don’t do justice.

[colin007]

18 hours ago, billchao said:

No, not by a long shot. Pulling > carrying.

It's not that you're pulling. It's that you're pulling a pull cart...

Just messing with you.

[bones75]

I voted its easier to push although personally I carry.

I carry simply to burn more calories and help get my heart rate up for general cardio vascular health. I guess a lot of reason why I golf these days is just for the exercise.

I understand it can be an unhealthy practice (like how it can impact your back/shoulders). But my doctor and physical therapists have said that if I always use two straps and watch my posture (which I admit, gets annoyingly tiring), its a good way to get in more strenous exercise during a round of golf.

100% sure i play worse golf though. When i do ride, i can hit the ball further and straighter. So if i really want to score well, i push or ride.

Edited June 6, 2020 by bones75

[jmanbooyaa]

Last few rounds I have to carrying. The main reason is the courses have been so damn filthy due to rain. It first started with a round that took me 10 minutes after the round to hose my cart off before loading into car. I have been really enjoying the walk the last few. I have a SunMountain 2.5 bag and only use 11 to 9 clubs including putter on those walks. Full transparency my buddy rides so i put a few items in his cart to really lighten the load. Last round i had 4 balls in total. 2 in pocket 2 in bag nothing else in my bag but clubs. So much fun and quick to load into car at end of round. 

[jmanbooyaa]

To add more to this new found love for the walk and carry. The shoes. I have been wearing the Ripstops and last 2 rounds the Lux Sport. They are exceptionally easy to walk a course in. 

[Denny Bang Bang]

I find it much easier to carry, a lot more freedom when not having wheels on the ground.  I do pack lighter when carrying as well.  However, I do only carry when it’s not too hot or sunny out.  Once it gets really sunny and the dry heat kicks in, I’ll push the cart to stay under the umbrella’s shade and load up with water.  When it pushes mid-90s and over, I’ll just ride.