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10 minutes ago, billchao said:

There’s a fee for changing your tees. Cash only 😃

Oh lawd..I'm guessing you must be the self appointed treasure.. lol. 

4 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

Are there senior tees available?

Only for left handers...😉 

 

 

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On 10/20/2020 at 4:15 PM, cipher said:

Also, we will likely want to play from around 6700+ yards or so.

From the first post, guys.

Start your speed training now.

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Many tees are elevated, the ball is going travel a long way with the warm weather and the design of the course.  I think everyone here who I already know or have seen hit the ball should be fine.  

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

Start your speed training now.

Completely fine. Just joking a bit. Also seems like the ball will get plenty roll. 

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On 5/5/2021 at 10:43 PM, saevel25 said:

Going through the list, and happen to find Sand Valley (25th) and Lawsonia (23rd) 🙂

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For the first time our ranking of the best public-access courses ventured outside the United States into Canada, Mexico, Bermuda and the Caribbean. Enjoy!

 

Mammoth Dunes was #29 as well.

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Alright, so the MKE group (@DaveP043, @GolfLug, @DeadMan, and myself) have a hotel booked on Thursday night in Oconomowoc and a tee time for The Club at Lac La Belle on Friday morning.

We were talking about playing Lawsonia on Thursday, is that what everyone here is interested in doing? So we’re going to coordinate that with the whole group?

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12 hours ago, billchao said:

We were talking about playing Lawsonia on Thursday, is that what everyone here is interested in doing? So we’re going to coordinate that with the whole group?

No. Your foursome can do yours. We have a time for our foursome.

Our foursome is all going to be socially exhausted. 😉 So we are avoiding the party foursome you’re in. 😄

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13 hours ago, iacas said:

No. Your foursome can do yours. We have a time for our foursome.

Our foursome is all going to be socially exhausted. 😉 So we are avoiding the party foursome you’re in. 😄

Ok. Done. Can’t wait for this thing!

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On 5/19/2021 at 4:45 PM, GolfLug said:

Completely fine. Just joking a bit. Also seems like the ball will get plenty roll. 

Yeah the slope and width of the fairways are nice, and they don't really water it much(or at all) out there which will be to the helping side of things.  

Course Conditions

Firm and Fast

The golf courses at Sand Valley feature fescue grass in our fairways and "rough" hazards and bent grass on our greens. These are types of grass that provide firm and fast playing conditions that mimic the playing conditions at links courses in Scotland and Ireland, where the game began.

Brown is Beautiful

At Sand Valley, you will find tawny brown/green fairways and greens as a reflection of our firm and fast conditions. We believe the faded green turf on our golf courses presents the most enjoyable form of links golf.

What Does this Mean for You?

While every player chooses to play differently, playing on firm and fast playing conditions generally forces the player to use the “ground game” (putters from off the green, bump and runs with a lower iron, etc.) to his or her advantage instead of trying to use lofted wedges to try to control the ball through loft and spin. The firmer playing conditions mean your ball will generally roll out much farther than you might be used to and that it can be harder to pick the ball clean from the fairway.

 

2 hours ago, billchao said:

Ok. Done. Can’t wait for this thing!

Thanks for the help with your group's tee day 4 and 5 tee times.  That is one less thing for me to coordinate.  

As we get closer to this thing we should start a PM group to coordinate some things. I have a few details and things I need to go over as everyone arrives Sunday afternoon/evening.  For example, come hungry.  🙂

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1 hour ago, cipher said:

Thanks for the help with your group's tee day 4 and 5 tee times.  That is one less thing for me to coordinate. 

No, thank you for hosting this thing. I’m sure what I’ve done pales in comparison to what you’re doing on your end.

1 hour ago, cipher said:

As we get closer to this thing we should start a PM group to coordinate some things. I have a few details and things I need to go over as everyone arrives Sunday afternoon/evening.

Good idea. Let me know if you need help with anything. I’m more than happy to cook and stuff.

1 hour ago, cipher said:

For example, come hungry.  🙂

I can always eat. Anytime 😃

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Got my new golf cart! 😁 Ready to go!! 

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That was fast!

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1 minute ago, iacas said:

That was fast!

Yea, they overestimated how long it would take to get here. 

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Driver: :callaway: GBB Epic,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: :srixon: (4-PW)
Wedges:
:edel: Trapper (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :bushnell: Tour V2

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42 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

Got my new golf cart! 😁 Ready to go!! 

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This is what I have been using last 3+ years. Perfectly adequate. Nate said I can rent one from the course since not sure worth it for me to fly it to SV. 

On 5/23/2021 at 2:40 PM, cipher said:

Yeah the slope and width of the fairways are nice, and they don't really water it much(or at all) out there which will be to the helping side of things.  

Course Conditions

Firm and Fast

The golf courses at Sand Valley feature fescue grass in our fairways and "rough" hazards and bent grass on our greens. These are types of grass that provide firm and fast playing conditions that mimic the playing conditions at links courses in Scotland and Ireland, where the game began.

Brown is Beautiful

At Sand Valley, you will find tawny brown/green fairways and greens as a reflection of our firm and fast conditions. We believe the faded green turf on our golf courses presents the most enjoyable form of links golf.

What Does this Mean for You?

While every player chooses to play differently, playing on firm and fast playing conditions generally forces the player to use the “ground game” (putters from off the green, bump and runs with a lower iron, etc.) to his or her advantage instead of trying to use lofted wedges to try to control the ball through loft and spin. The firmer playing conditions mean your ball will generally roll out much farther than you might be used to and that it can be harder to pick the ball clean from the fairway.

 

 

Ima bring my self-regulated speed control putter..😉    

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6 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

Nate said I can rent one from the course since not sure worth it for me to fly it to SV. 

I'd consider bringing yours. The added fees will be eaten into by the costs of renting one, and the rentals are almost never usually anywhere near as good as your own personal one.

I'm driving, but I'll have one with possibly even the seat, probably the cooler bag, etc.

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Honestly, I would considering just using Fedex. It would be $50-$60 shipping. Airlines will not cover the cost of damage unless they are in a hard container (at least for golf clubs). I believe FedEx has insurance to cover damage. Depending on the airline you would end up paying more than $50. 

 

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12 minutes ago, iacas said:

I'd consider bringing yours. The added fees will be eaten into by the costs of renting one, and the rentals are almost never usually anywhere near as good as your own personal one.

I'm driving, but I'll have one with possibly even the seat, probably the cooler bag, etc.

Fair point. While I think I am back close to 95% with my ankle but still gets very sore every night. I had a caddie at Streamsong but saw the push carts they offered that were cast iron structures with giant wheels (apparently they roll better through waste areas. I am assuming SV offers similar carts. So yeah.. good point and I might just do that. I might call SV to find out what they have.

13 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

Honestly, I would considering just using Fedex. It would be $50-$60 shipping. Airlines will not cover the cost of damage unless they are in a hard container (at least for golf clubs). I believe FedEx has insurance to cover damage. Depending on the airline you would end up paying more than $50. 

 

Yup, makes sense. 

 

Vishal S.

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