Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
r7 425

Less than 4 degrees of Loft

Note: This thread is 4266 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

8 posts / 1470 viewsLast Reply

Recommended Posts

Are there any companies that use less than 4 degrees of loft on their putters. I know the standard is 4 degrees. I think if you had a putter that had 1 degree of loft then the ball wouldnt skip as much. I think the guerin rife 2 bar is like 2 degrees. Maybe all companies should lessen loft to make a truer roll

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Register for free today and you won't see this ad spot again!

I believe most of the Yes! putters are about 2.5 degrees. When I got fitted for mine they bent it to be 2 degrees for me. Putts great. Most major companies seem to be around 4 degrees though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Are there any companies that use less than 4 degrees of loft on their putters. I know the standard is 4 degrees. I think if you had a putter that had 1 degree of loft then the ball wouldnt skip as much. I think the guerin rife 2 bar is like 2 degrees. Maybe all companies should lessen loft to make a truer roll

Putters come in a wide variety of lofts. A lot of the mallet putters are around 2.5 degrees. Check out a lot of the TaylorMade Rossa line... 2.5 degrees. I don't think that there is any standard at all. There are putters out there with negative loft (see

http://www.purestrikegolf.co.uk/about_pro.asp as one example) Another point is that because putting is such a slow motion compared to the full swing, you can manipulate the head much easier with much less chance of ruining the swing. So, if you have a putter that is 4 degrees and you think that is too much, just put the ball farther back in your stance. Hands ahead at impact will equal less loft. Hands behind at impact will equal more loft. Finally, the amount of loft can depend on the type of green. If you are playing on certain strains of Bermuda, the ball will almost always settle into a small depression and the extra loft helps hop the ball up out of that depression. If the green in like most bentgrasses, that isn't as much of an issue. The maintenance of the green comes into play, too -- how recently were they aerated? Are the ball marks fixed well? I think in general too much is made of the loft. Like I said, you can always manipulate the face to pick the loft you want. I think that much more important factors are the type of head, where the shaft connects, the weighting scheme (face-balanced or toe-weighted), total weight, head weight, and counter balancing. Of these, the total weight and head weight I think think are the most important, because to a certain extent the rest are just style. The great unknown is feel, and that is probably the most important and unpredictable. I think that feel is probably the biggest thing because if you feel comfortable over a putt because of the confidence generated in a putter that feels good to you, you will just naturally make more putts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Are there any companies that use less than 4 degrees of loft on their putters. I know the standard is 4 degrees. I think if you had a putter that had 1 degree of loft then the ball wouldnt skip as much. I think the guerin rife 2 bar is like 2 degrees. Maybe all companies should lessen loft to make a truer roll

As Masa mentioned most Yes! putters are 2.5 but most putters can be adjusted for loft as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Hi Matt, I beg to disagree with you on the need for loft in a putter. In the old days the putter was known as the flat stick because unlike the other irons, it had no loft. Lifting the ball with the loft is what causes the ball to skip up before assuming its forward roll. This is what is sometime avoided by golfers moving their hands forward of the putter head when addressing a put. They are unknowingly trying to eliminate the loft and bringing the head to vertical zero loft. If you were putting from off the green, I would agree with you that the loft was advantageous, however once on the green, if you have marked your ball and then replace it before putting, it should not be down in the grass. Try a zero loft putter and see if you don't get better results than your lofty putter. Happy putting. Weekend Pro

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Over the past few months I have been working on my putting stroke in which I now "deloft" the putter by moving my hands in front of the ball. I have found that not only does it get the ball rolling faster, but my putting stoke seems smoother.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Matt, I beg to disagree with you on the need for loft in a putter. In the old days the putter was known as the flat stick because unlike the other irons, it had no loft.

Define "old days." Because in the mid-1900s, the putter had about ten degrees of loft. It needed that much because the grass was so much longer on the greens.

They are unknowingly trying to eliminate the loft and bringing the head to vertical zero loft. If you were putting from off the green, I would agree with you that the loft was advantageous, however once on the green, if you have marked your ball and then replace it before putting, it should not be down in the grass. Try a zero loft putter and see if you don't get better results than your lofty putter. Happy putting. Weekend Pro

If a zero-lofted putter was the best thing, people would be using putters with zero degrees of loft. Suffice to say the four degrees of loft that's present on most putters still matters and is still useful.

Contrary to your statement, loft doesn't cause the "skipping." We'd see more skipping with putters with zero loft.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 4266 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2019 TST Partners

    PING Golf
    FlightScope Mevo
  • Posts

    • I agree, I can feel it too.  But you get used to it pretty quickly and then you don’t even think of it.
    • What loft was he using on those heads?  The Flash is a low spin head, I forget what the TS2 is.  With an 85 mph clubhead speed I’d be as concerned about the head as I am the shaft.  The Flash also has the weights, how are those set up? FWIW my son is also small... older than your son but he is 5’even and 80lbs.  He hits a Ping G SFT 12 degree with a senior shaft.  Hits it about 225 yards with a tight little draw.  He has always had a draw anyway.    I didn’t mind getting him the SFT because he plays it at full length and the SFT feature would enable him hitting a draw with a shaft that’s too long so he would get some distance.
    • So I haven't been pleased with my putting lately.  It just seems like I have been fighting it on the backswing, and that is throwing me off. So I thought I would pull out a bunch of putters. like many people have and weigh them and see what the balance turned out to be.  This is not scientific since I am using a Taylormade Monza IB Spider as the baseline weight and using a digital scale.  I realize this only gives me overall static weight of the putter and not the head weight.  I'm just guessing at that since they all have small pistol grips.  The IB weighed 537gr and has a spec of 350gr headweight.  It has a slight toe balance. 1930's Burke 15oz, 90* toe balance (Found in my parent's garage as a kid and actually used it a long time ago because I thought it was cool). 1985 Taylormade TPA V 488gr 17-1/4oz, guess 300gr HW slight toe (First real putter that I used for a long time... Nevada Bob's). 1990's Teradrops TD-xx 504/508 17-3/4oz, guess 315/320gr HW slight toe (Drank the roll face kool-aid a few years ago, they do roll nice). 2008 Adams Mallet 523gr 18-1/2oz, guess 335gr HW face balance (Got this after wife took my IB, I loved this putter before Jim Jones got a hold of me... back in the bag). I have others, the 80's are around the same weight (slight toe, except one that is about 80*) and I have a Teardrop RFD that is "toe up" by 30* and is almost 19-1/2oz-360gr HW.  It is super stable... but boy I hate that one. I realize that my list is really low budget and most people wouldn't be caught dead with any of them.  But this was kind of an exercise in looking back at the years and also have some baseline for me.  I don't buy a lot, but I realize that I've picked up too much of the same that isn't working, at least for my current setup. John
    • I get it.  But the bottom line is, that just because it’s on the cart path, the actual procedure doesn’t change at all from any other drop.  That’s why you’re not finding anything.  There’s no difference in the procedure at all.  
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Blog Entries

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. AndyH22
      AndyH22
      (32 years old)
    2. dalegribble
      dalegribble
      (54 years old)
    3. Drive4ShowPuttOnPoa
      Drive4ShowPuttOnPoa
      (28 years old)
    4. Squiggley
      Squiggley
      (63 years old)

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...