No, It does impact lie angle at address. Hand position can effect lie angle at impact to.
just because you present no toe up at address doesn’t mean you present that same position at impact. Your hand position can be different at impact than at address, and the dynamics of the golf club will change the lie angle as well.
you could have very low hands at address and then swing where they end up much higher. If you change the lie angle of the club because it looks a lot toe up at address, then you could induce the toe to be down at impact.
impact is what matters. When fitting, they have you hit a lie angle board, impact. Not measure lie at address.
So it's not the position of your hands that affect how much your toe should be up at address, it's just your swing speed and the material the shaft is made from?
I had seen it mentioned that hand position was the most important thing for this but maybe it's wrong
We did some competitive stuff on the Sandbox and the last day I shot about as well as I possibly could. I shot a 53(par 51) on the final day when we did a team competition. The Sandbox was just and absolute joy to play, and some of the pin positions were very tough to get.
I shot an 80 at Mammoth which was low for me on the one day my driver was behaving, but was mostly mid to high 80s on the other days. I had a few hybrid(it's a 3 cranked down to a 2) shots that were probably my best shots. The par 5 number 18 on Mammoth to just before the green from about 250 out. Same thing on 10(par5) at SV from about the same distance to the front edge. I drilled my second shot on the par 5 number 7 at SV that rolled off the back of the green from 240-250 or so. Unfortunately it rolled into a deep bunker off the back where I took a double. 😂 I saw some pretty incredible shots and a couple low scores taken out there, but that is for those people to share that if they want. It was just such an amazing time out there, I had so much fun. 176 holes over 6 days, others played even more than that over 5.
Depends on the swing. The club shaft is not straight at impact, even if you match hand position because the weight of the clubhead will cause the shaft to bend, sending the toe closer to the ground. That depends on your swing speed, and the golf shaft.
Its best just to get fitted for irons and use a lie board.