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I like a good number of their videos, but that one's 17 minutes+, so if you can narrow down specifically to what you're talking about, with a time stamp or something to when it starts, please do.

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13 hours ago, iacas said:

I like a good number of their videos, but that one's 17 minutes+, so if you can narrow down specifically to what you're talking about, with a time stamp or something to when it starts, please do.

Definitely!

  • First drill is at 7min18s where he puts left hand under right tricep to feel connection going back.
  • Second drill is at 10min24s, where he does a move just like what you showed me.
  • Third drill/check is at 12min58s, where he basically resets his body to show where his hands actually are at the top of the flawed backswing.
    • I feel like this re-framing was the most illuminating for me for the issue you called out?
  • Fourth drill is at 15min4s, where it basically helps show what the right arm is really doing in the backswing (basically just folding more or less, if that's correct).

I think it's really telling that I feel completely out of sorts when I try to do a swing with just the trail arm (like in the first drill). Feels very hard to even do a simple pitch shot and has me thinking I should go to the range for a couple weeks just trying to focus on doing that and only that, but I know I'd have to be doing it correctly also ha..

I'm just really struggling with what my shape should be to have gained height from A2 to A4 as was originally mentioned. Perhaps an element that I'm not getting (that maybe an overhead view would help) is how far away from my trail shoulder my hands should be at the top of the backswing? Are they too close to my torso because I'm letting them get sucked in behind?

If you were to take a look at my position at the top, where would you want my hands to be? Where would you want my trail elbow to be? If they were consistently in those spots would I find it easier to move the right elbow properly in transition to help shallow the club?

 

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As always, thanks 🙂

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5 hours ago, sinik said:

If you were to take a look at my position at the top, where would you want my hands to be? Where would you want my trail elbow to be? If they were consistently in those spots would I find it easier to move the right elbow properly in transition to help shallow the club?

Like Shaun says all the time: if an instructor lets you go to this position you posted above and does these things, you'll be fine:

  • Pushes your right shoulder back (toward the target).
  • Pulls your hands away (away from the target).
  • Lifts your right elbow a bit farther off your ribs (your shoulder joint elevates the right upper arm).

Then you'll be fine. And you won't lose much "depth" in doing that.

 

That video is an extemporaneous dry run at a video I plan to formally do at some point when I have the time. 🙂

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45 minutes ago, iacas said:

Like Shaun says all the time: if an instructor lets you go to this position you posted above and does these things, you'll be fine:

  • Pushes your right shoulder back (toward the target).
  • Pulls your hands away (away from the target).
  • Lifts your right elbow a bit farther off your ribs (your shoulder joint elevates the right upper arm).

Then you'll be fine. And you won't lose much "depth" in doing that.

 

That video is an extemporaneous dry run at a video I plan to formally do at some point when I have the time. 🙂

  • "Pushes your right shoulder back (toward the target)."
    • Meaning on the axis of rotation around my spine that my shoulders go more than 90 degrees? Bit confused by this one, as I would imagine that pushing right shoulder back brings left shoulder more forward (toward camera)
  • "Pulls your hands away (away from the target)."
    • Meaning if I drew a line parallel to target line, hands would get closer to the camera but stay on roughly the same line (aside from whatever changes from your 3rd point about the right elbow)?
    • Is this and the push right shoulder back basically two sides of the same coin? Meaning you mentioned both to make sure I didn't under-rotate my right shoulder back towards the target in an attempt to pull hands away?

"That video is an extemporaneous dry run at a video I plan to formally do at some point when I have the time."

This video is incredible. I know you probably had an idea to do something for the benefit of TST and/or 5SK anyways, but it really feels like you filmed this to help me visualize it ha..

 

When you're showing the arm raise then turn version, and at the bending the trail elbow step, does the left arm need to somewhat move a bit backwards (towards camera) to accommodate the bending? Certainly feels like it when I try to replicate.

 

Again, thanks!

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1 minute ago, sinik said:
  • "Pushes your right shoulder back (toward the target)."
    • Meaning on the axis of rotation around my spine that my shoulders go more than 90 degrees? Bit confused by this one, as I would imagine that pushing right shoulder back brings left shoulder more forward (toward camera)

Why would it? No, it doesn't.

1 minute ago, sinik said:
  • "Pulls your hands away (away from the target)."
    • Meaning if I drew a line parallel to target line, hands would get closer to the camera but stay on roughly the same line (aside from whatever changes from your 3rd point about the right elbow)?
    • Is this and the push right shoulder back basically two sides of the same coin? Meaning you mentioned both to make sure I didn't under-rotate my right shoulder back towards the target in an attempt to pull hands away?

Yes, and not two sides of the same coin, but from face on the right shoulder goes right, the hands go left. The distance widens.

1 minute ago, sinik said:

When you're showing the arm raise then turn version, and at the bending the trail elbow step, does the left arm need to somewhat move a bit backwards (towards camera) to accommodate the bending? Certainly feels like it when I try to replicate.

Of course. One side of the triangle gets shorter. 🙂

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8 minutes ago, iacas said:

Why would it? No, it doesn't.

Hmm guess I always tried to think of the two shoulders as equally moving opposite pieces and that's then a misconception. Is it truly right shoulder back or more like right shoulder back as an effect of right elbow external rotation and abduction?

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11 minutes ago, sinik said:

Hmm guess I always tried to think of the two shoulders as equally moving opposite pieces and that's then a misconception. Is it truly right shoulder back or more like right shoulder back as an effect of right elbow external rotation and abduction?

You can't keep your left shoulder in place and move your right shoulder?

Of course you can.

Time to post in some other topics, and get to work practicing these things, my man.

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5 minutes ago, iacas said:

You can't keep your left shoulder in place and move your right shoulder?

Of course you can.

Well, I feel like I can't without my right elbow leading that movement, that's all

 

  

5 minutes ago, iacas said:

Time to post in some other topics

you got it!

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