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Is Phil the 3rd Best Player of All Time?


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I've been hesitant to weigh in on this because I am very biased.  I really like Phil and want him to be #3.  But I will try to be objective.   As for the arguments that Phil was not "Dominant" and not "#1 in WGR" IMO that is not relevant since we are discussing #3 overall and many lesser players had short stints at World #1 and they are not in the conversation.  The real challenge to who is #3 is between Hogan & Mickelson.  I know, Hagen has 11 Majors but much lower SOF.  I have accepted that in the case of Tiger/Niklaus 15 > 18.  Phil wins the SOF points over Hogan but saying 6 > 9 is a harder for me than than saying 15 > 18.  Another factor is longevity.  Phil is still competitive after 30 years.  Hogan was competitive @ 20 years ( @ 1940-1958/9) and that says a lot to me.    

For now I am going call it a tie with a biased leaning towards Phil.  WHEN Phil wins at Torey Pines that will cement his position in my mind.  OK, I am not claiming to be psychic, just hopeful.

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On 6/9/2021 at 7:06 PM, iacas said:

:hmm:

Pet peeve. Sorry. Pretty sure Phil outranks anyone named Nicholas. 😄

Are you sure about that? Alison Nicholas actually won a US Open.

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3 hours ago, Billy Z said:

Does Phil's Ryder Cup record make a statement saying "I am the 3rd best player of all time"? 

https://www.rydercup.com/news-media/phil-mickelsons-ryder-cup-career-record

I don’t factor Ryder Cup records into this.

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46 minutes ago, iacas said:

I don’t factor Ryder Cup records into this.

God no. It would bring Poulter into the discussion...😜

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4 hours ago, Billy Z said:

Does Phil's Ryder Cup record make a statement saying "I am the 3rd best player of all time"? 

https://www.rydercup.com/news-media/phil-mickelsons-ryder-cup-career-record

 

I don't take exhibitions into account in evaluating players' careers.

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