Jump to content
IGNORED

Fight Breaks Out at Korn Ferry Qualifier


Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, Troy Ocker said:

Ok, was maybe a bit harsh. 

1st offense: 1 year ban. 

2nd offense: life ban. 

No sport needs people like this and it is not a human right to play competetive golf at a professional level. 

I'm good with this. That feels about right to me. 

8 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

His hope is that of a misdemeanor if a good lawyer can knock it down to 'had a very bad day'.  

If the judge is a golfer he has a chance. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

(edited)
16 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

Seems like he has a larger issue of possible felony indictment if aggravated assualt/battery charges were filed.

I don’t know the law of the particular jurisdiction, but it would seem that unless particular circumstances exist, like using a deadly weapon, there would be no rise from battery to a felony charge. I haven’t seen any facts to indicate that he brandished a weapon, like a golf club for instance, in the fight. 

 

16 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

His hope is that of a misdemeanor if a good lawyer can knock it down to 'had a very bad day'.  

Therefore, I think this statement is over broad. The burden of proof would fall on the prosecutor to show each element is met. Sure, the prospector can threaten charges, but again, unless there are facts to support a felony charge, of which I’m not aware at present, I don’t think his “hope” is that a lawyer can “get him off.” 

Edited by ncates00
Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Jerks get into fights every day. If they all went to prison, you'd need a gray-bar hotel every two blocks.

This looks like a fine and some community service at worst.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

9 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

If the judge is a golfer he has a chance. 

The judge isn’t involved in plea-bargaining. That’s even assuming there are facts to support a felony charge.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

3 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

The judge isn’t involved in plea-bargaining. That’s even assuming there are facts to support a felony charge.

I was being facetious. 

  • Thanks 1
  • Funny 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I do not know what was said, but I was shocked that it was Smith who started the fight. IDK, but I feel like it would have been Dailey. 

Quote

The altercation took place after Dailey hit a wayward shot on the par-3 7th hole. After both Luke Smith and his father allegedly failed to help look for the ball, Dailey approached the two and said how helping to look for errant shots might speed up the group. The Smiths then allegedly began to yell at Dailey about his own play, and as Dailey walked away, Luke Smith reportedly jumped on and started to punch him. When Fribbs attempted to break up the fight, Smith’s father began to use a putter to keep him from breaking up the fight.

Another group called the pro shop to come break up the fight. Smith was then taken to the clubhouse and arrested after Dailey decided to press charges.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Just now, ChetlovesMer said:

I was being facetious. 

Gotcha. I’m very literal, especially in written form, unless it is clear and obvious that another’s words are mere jest. Folks, not necessarily you, tend to be ignorant on the law, so I wasn’t sure. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

3 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

Gotcha. I’m very literal, especially in written form, unless it is clear and obvious that another’s words are mere jest. Folks, not necessarily you, tend to be ignorant on the law, so I wasn’t sure. 

My bad, I should have used an emoji to show my facetiousness. 

  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Sounds like a cactus paring, nothing but pricks. 

The sissification of men continues. I’m sure the daddy caddy for his precious little angel is a real hoot. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

50 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

Gotcha. I’m very literal, especially in written form, unless it is clear and obvious that another’s words are mere jest. Folks, not necessarily you, tend to be ignorant on the law, so I wasn’t sure. 

3EAB7EBF-B106-49AC-A6B2-BE462BDB5EF0.gif.904356369f00cc5528f7bafca6d4c2fe.gif

  • Funny 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

6 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

3EAB7EBF-B106-49AC-A6B2-BE462BDB5EF0.gif.904356369f00cc5528f7bafca6d4c2fe.gif

I think that’s the second time you’ve tagged me with that my brother! Haha. It fits, I suppose. It’s hard to turn that button off. Ask my wife. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

19 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

I think that’s the second time you’ve tagged me with that my brother! Haha. It fits, I suppose. It’s hard to turn that button off. Ask my wife. 

Lol…yeah. I get it. My brother’s a contract lawyer and I have to be very specific when I talk to him.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

2 hours ago, ncates00 said:

I don’t know the law of the particular jurisdiction, but it would seem that unless particular circumstances exist, like using a deadly weapon, there would be no rise from battery to a felony charge. I haven’t seen any facts to indicate that he brandished a weapon, like a golf club for instance, in the fight. 

 

Therefore, I think this statement is over broad. The burden of proof would fall on the prosecutor to show each element is met. Sure, the prospector can threaten charges, but again, unless there are facts to support a felony charge, of which I’m not aware at present, I don’t think his “hope” is that a lawyer can “get him off.” 

So a fist fight is unlikely to rise to a felony or in the least the burden of proof rests on the prosecution. Thanks. Yeah, that is good (relatively speaking) for the young man if so.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

7 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

in the least the burden of proof rests on the prosecution.

At least in the US, isn't this always the case?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

17 hours ago, iacas said:

Or maybe they were on the other side of the hole and had gotten tired of him hitting balls into the shit, and they'd already looked for six other balls of his that day.

Must have been great deal of fatigue as they also were too tired to ever put the pin back in. 

  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, Missouri Swede said:

At least in the US, isn't this always the case?

Well, in broad terms yes, but we were debating in the specific case of a fist fight (seems to be) whether it would land as a felony or misdemeanor. Seems to be circumstantial. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Went to the course, and a hockey game broke out. Five minute majors for fighting, and never pair these knuckleheads again.

Link to post
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, Missouri Swede said:

At least in the US, isn't this always the case?

Yes, for criminal cases. The only exception in criminal cases would be where the defendant is trying to prove an affirmative defense to a charge—then, the defendant has the burden to prove that defense. But note that the prosecution still bears the burden of proof for charge. 

  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • Support TST Affiliates

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    Whoop
    SuperSpeed
    FlightScope Mevo
    Use the code "iacas" for 10% off Mevo and the code "iacasjun21" for 10% off SuperSpeed.
  • Posts

    • Which is why @iacas and TST instructors in general recommend priority pieces. This could really screw someone up who’s hip rotation wasn’t a priority piece or who’s hand/wrists movements were. I vote D-. Not an F purely because of his enthusiasm…lol.
    • For the record and for what it’s worth, I’m not a Xander fan. I just think he’s pretty good. 
    • Maybe. Maybe not. That’s why I said it “could be.” Statistically things aren’t in his favor because, as you mentioned, the field is pretty good. But he’s also pretty good—one of the best statistically-speaking. Sometimes just a little bit of success can spur one on to do more. He looks like he has the talent, so I guess we will just have to wait and see.  Curious: is there something in his game or swing you see that you don’t like? You’d know better than I, for sure. To me, he looks very solid. I didn’t know if maybe you saw something he needs to fix, just based it purely on the numbers, or the fact that you don’t like him and that your dislike of him could have tainted your view of him (even if deserved!). 
    • And I'd wager that within a reasonable version of "launching pad" it won't be. He won a weak, limited-field event. I'm sure it feels great - it's one event every FOUR years instead of majors which are four events every year (usually). But it's not even as good as winning a WGC event or the Masters or something (also limited field events) as an actual achievement. I'd be willing to wager that simply because: There are a lot of other good golfers out there. He hasn't done it yet, and for "this" to be the catalyst, he'd have to do it within the next year or so for this to be the "launching pad." Who cares if he, like Sergio, wins a major 15 years later? The 1999 PGA was not the launching pad for Sergio's Masters win. Nor were any of the Ryder Cups in which he played so well, etc.
    • Make some swings in a mirror and try different things. See what your feels produce. I don't really know what you mean by "using your knees" in this way, and quite honestly, I don't think you do either… not because you don't think you know, but because you're probably not doing what it feels like you're doing. Move the hips properly, and see what the other body parts do. Do it in a mirror so the feedback is immediate.
  • Today's Birthdays

    1. ercxi
      ercxi
      (33 years old)
    2. Garea51
      Garea51
      (70 years old)
    3. iamwardicus
      iamwardicus
      (37 years old)

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...