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1 hour ago, saevel25 said:

Aimpoint makes reading those greens much easier. 😉

Oh, its not the reading that's difficult, its keeping the ball anywhere near the hole!  But there WERE times where I needed to borrow a finger or two.

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1 minute ago, DaveP043 said:

Oh, its not the reading that's difficult, its keeping the ball anywhere near the hole!  But there WERE times where I needed to borrow a finger or two.

Yea, if you hit it to certain spots, you are just not keeping it with in 5 FT of the hole. It isn't like you can't stop it near the hole from other putting locations, but certain locations you are just screwed. 

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4 hours ago, Hardspoon said:

The greens were very slow when we played, so it was not an issue. 

They must have heard me whining.. lol.

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4 hours ago, GolfLug said:

They must have heard me whining.. lol.

They had just aerated a few days before.

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8 hours ago, iacas said:

They had just aerated a few days before.

That would explain it. Am planning to go back this summer for a day trip. I think I was a bit shell-shocked from how different it is from when I played 10 years ago. It is a dramatic transformation. 

Perspective is a strange thing. For me it was the highlight of the trip.

We had some folks play there from our CC a week after we did and vowed to never go back after the beating they took. They said something to the effect of more sand than fairways (which is of course an exaggeration ) and greens not being fair.. ha.

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I've played it when the greens were rolling. You just can't be a moron. They're fine.

What do people think of Oakmont, etc. There are plenty of severe greens on many, many courses in the world.

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The thing is, hypothetically they can take them to like a 10 STIMP and they could feel like 12 because of the slope.
 

Very sloped greens are not that big of an issue and can bring a ton of fun. When you have to think, maybe I should hit it 20ft right of the pin to get it close, it’s an interesting puzzle. 

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cropped-favicon-512x512-1-180x180.png A reborn Southern Pines is Donald Ross at his best

In the Pinehurst area, I thought I'd played every Donald Ross course that mattered. But I'd yet to have the pleasure of Southern Pines.
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3 hours ago, iacas said:
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cropped-favicon-512x512-1-180x180.png A reborn Southern Pines is Donald Ross at his best

In the Pinehurst area, I thought I'd played every Donald Ross course that mattered. But I'd yet to...

Have not pleasure to play their either and I only live 3 hrs away…

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I’m actually sad that my dad booked Mid Pines over Southern Pines this year for our trip. Ill need to sneak in 18 when I’m down there.

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