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7 hours ago, Bonvivant said:

The biggest thing to note is that there was only one sharp increase in average driving distance, and it happened quite quickly, starting in 1995, and ending in 2002. Does that coincide with anything in golf history?

https://www.pga.com/archive/how-driving-distance-has-changed-over-past-40-years-pga-tour

It's only in the last 2-3 years that someone has made a real commitment to building up his body besides Tiger previously, now that the kids see all this going on their onto it!!

 

They can see the correct body shape can change be bigger, previously it was thought big muscle was not good for Golf but Bryson has changed that thinking. I see so many Fat touring Pro's doing ok but could be so much better if they did the training, I believe it's the main reason Tiger was just too good for so long plus he could play with a broken leg....

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16 minutes ago, Colins69 said:

It's only in the last 2-3 years that someone has made a real commitment to building up his body besides Tiger previously, now that the kids see all this going on their onto it!!

They can see the correct body shape can change be bigger, previously it was thought big muscle was not good for Golf but Bryson has changed that thinking. I see so many Fat touring Pro's doing ok but could be so much better if they did the training, I believe it's the main reason Tiger was just too good for so long plus he could play with a broken leg....

Great. So how much are we betting?

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11 hours ago, Colins69 said:

It's only in the last 2-3 years that someone has made a real commitment to building up his body besides Tiger previously, now that the kids see all this going on their onto it!!

 

They can see the correct body shape can change be bigger, previously it was thought big muscle was not good for Golf but Bryson has changed that thinking. I see so many Fat touring Pro's doing ok but could be so much better if they did the training, I believe it's the main reason Tiger was just too good for so long plus he could play with a broken leg....

You seriously think Bryson was the first PGA Tour pro who started working on being more fit and gaining speed from that? Have you been watching the Tour for the last 40 years?

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Just now, boogielicious said:

You seriously think Bryson was the first PGA Tour pro who started working on being more fit and gaining speed from that? Have you been watching the Tour for the last 40 years?

This exactly. The big jump I mentioned over that 7 year period did include Tiger's entrance, and a prime Daly, but they weren't a big enough sample to move the average. The average move happened because people were starting to see how big of an advantage distance could be so they put more time and work in, and because of improvement in equipment.

It hasn't moved much in the last 15 years because many people are just trying to keep up (working out and focusing on trajectory and spin rates) with the top of the pack. It's pretty tough to hit it 300 yards and keep it in play, and that's why I think that gains have trickled off. We still see small gains because more of a percentage of the tour has distance as a goal, and guys like Fitz and ZJ are becoming more rare. Those two come to mind as guys who admit to just being shorter, accepting it, and improving other parts of their game.

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On 10/16/2021 at 3:26 PM, iacas said:

Great. So how much are we betting?

GREAT So you think with your wallet, latest results suggest the Europeans are playing well with Two wins. CJ Cup an Andaluca masters, too little too late But !!!

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On 10/17/2021 at 4:51 AM, Bonvivant said:

This exactly. The big jump I mentioned over that 7 year period did include Tiger's entrance, and a prime Daly, but they weren't a big enough sample to move the average. The average move happened because people were starting to see how big of an advantage distance could be so they put more time and work in, and because of improvement in equipment.

It hasn't moved much in the last 15 years because many people are just trying to keep up (working out and focusing on trajectory and spin rates) with the top of the pack. It's pretty tough to hit it 300 yards and keep it in play, and that's why I think that gains have trickled off. We still see small gains because more of a percentage of the tour has distance as a goal, and guys like Fitz and ZJ are becoming more rare. Those two come to mind as guys who admit to just being shorter, accepting it, and improving other parts of their game.

Well I'm saying thanks to Bryson its very much front and centre, in little New Zealand we are seeing most of the drama that goes on in the States. Including the effort by Brooks to windup Bryson, which may or may not be legit. 

 

I,m doing alot more upper body training that stops when my muscle is burning. I'm so happy that I've hit 144 mph ball speed not bad for 70 y/o, I'm not stopping training because I want to see how far I can go...  Back in the day my driver was 250 metres +... 

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25 minutes ago, Colins69 said:

GREAT So you think with your wallet, latest results suggest the Europeans are playing well with Two wins. CJ Cup an Andaluca masters, too little too late But !!!

Huh?

What does winning a tournament have to do with:

On 10/15/2021 at 4:22 AM, Colins69 said:

400ish driver distance will be the norm faster than you think.

Please, I'd love to take some money off of you.

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8 minutes ago, iacas said:

Huh?

What does winning a tournament have to do with:

Please, I'd love to take some money off of you.

How does a bet change anything, can't win a discussion thats for damm sure... 

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3 minutes ago, Colins69 said:

How does a bet change anything, can't win a discussion thats for damm sure... 

It is stake on a claim you made. People ask you to bet to see how much you believe in the things you say.

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35 minutes ago, Colins69 said:

How does a bet change anything, can't win a discussion thats for damm sure... 

You made a claim. I asked you to bet on it. Then you pointed out an unrelated fact.

You’re not making sense.

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