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45 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

I know you are using the laser rangefinder. But are the rest of the guys using it?

You asked if any of us were using the laser.

It's just a laser. The only thing special about it is that it has a spot if you want to magnetically stick your H4 to it.

If you have a laser already, it's not worth getting.

45 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

I'm assuming there's no advantage to using their rangefinder as apposed to any other range finder?

Correct.

12 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

@billchao and I are using just the device. We both also have laser rangefinders that we use on the course additionally.

Yep.

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To add to what Erik said, I am not sure I would attach the H4 to the rangefinder even if I had it. There are many times I use the H4 when I have no use for the laser, like around the green and putting. The device is just fine sitting on my belt where I can get to it whenever I need it. Attaching it to a laser seems extraneous. 

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31 minutes ago, NM Golf said:

To add to what Erik said, I am not sure I would attach the H4 to the rangefinder even if I had it. There are many times I use the H4 when I have no use for the laser, like around the green and putting. The device is just fine sitting on my belt where I can get to it whenever I need it. Attaching it to a laser seems extraneous. 

I was thinking the same thing. I think it would be slightly inconvenient to have it on a rangefinder.

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40 minutes ago, NM Golf said:

To add to what Erik said, I am not sure I would attach the H4 to the rangefinder even if I had it. There are many times I use the H4 when I have no use for the laser, like around the green and putting. The device is just fine sitting on my belt where I can get to it whenever I need it. Attaching it to a laser seems extraneous. 

While I also wouldn't put it on the rangefinder, and I also wouldn't need a rangefinder on the green, you don't laser your distances for pitch or chip shots?

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3 minutes ago, Shindig said:

While I also wouldn't put it on the rangefinder, and I also wouldn't need a rangefinder on the green, you don't laser your distances for pitch or chip shots?

 No, I don't laser distances on pitch and chip shots, I tend to walk them off. 

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I used the H4 at Lake Winnepesaukee GC. It worked fine up there. It was off a little bit on some holes, but otherwise fine.

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I wrote to support about my lack of 325-, 350-, and 375- (if there is the last one) drives. But, I'm doing okay considering I have only four rounds in there so far, I think.

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17 hours ago, iacas said:

I wrote to support about my lack of 325-, 350-, and 375- (if there is the last one) drives. But, I'm doing okay considering I have only four rounds in there so far, I think.

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Yeah, I don't know what the deal is the the achievement medals. I have a drive from this year that finished at 352 yards, but the only medal I have for driving distance is 275 yards (they go up to 400 yards).

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23 hours ago, iacas said:

I wrote to support about my lack of 325-, 350-, and 375- (if there is the last one) drives. But, I'm doing okay considering I have only four rounds in there so far, I think.

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6 hours ago, Darkfrog said:

Yeah, I don't know what the deal is the the achievement medals. I have a drive from this year that finished at 352 yards, but the only medal I have for driving distance is 275 yards (they go up to 400 yards).

Was it in the fairway? I don’t have a 300 yard drive medal yet because mine ended in the rough.

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2 hours ago, billchao said:

Was it in the fairway? I don’t have a 300 yard drive medal yet because mine ended in the rough.

Oh.

That's kinda dumb, then, if so. I might have to move it to the fairway just to get it to count. Because I hit it, so…

I get it, but I also think it's kinda dumb.

Drives in the fairway can go longer. What if you drive it through the corner of a massive dogleg, but you're totally fine? Seems a bit odd.

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2 minutes ago, iacas said:

Oh.

That's kinda dumb, then, if so. I might have to move it to the fairway just to get it to count. Because I hit it, so…

I get it, but I also think it's kinda dumb.

Drives in the fairway can go longer. What if you drive it through the corner of a massive dogleg, but you're totally fine? Seems a bit odd.

I don’t know. I guess it’s like those longest drive competitions in outings, they have to be in the fairway to count.

If you click on the actual medal, it tells you the criteria.

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2 minutes ago, billchao said:

If you click on the actual medal, it tells you the criteria.

Oh, okay.

And okay, I moved my shot about a yard and a half to the left and got the 375-yard one.

I doubt I'll ever see the 400-yard-drive one.

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2 hours ago, billchao said:

Was it in the fairway?

I just checked ShotScope and it recorded it in the rough, so moving fixed it. Pretty sure it was in the fairway in real life too, but close enough to rough/tree line that a minute GPS error would get mixed up (this area of the course just turns into a muddy slop pit in winter so hard to discern fairway and rough anyways). I don’t usually look at the lie information editing rounds. The “rough” at my course is not that difficult, but I do check for shots in bunkers when the GPS puts my ball next to the bunker, or putts off the fringe where sometimes they get attributed to putting stats instead of short game stats when the GPS is off by a yard or two. 

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When I play, I keep track of fairways, GIR and some other things.   When I edit the H4 round I make sure to verify that the fairways and GIR match my scorecard.   Like previously stated, sometimes it takes moving the data collection point a few feet.

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I bought the V3 last because I didn't want that annual subscription with Arccos, and Arccos was always out of the belt clip. My phone didn't fit in my pockets or lack thereof. So the V3 seemed to be a great option. I think this new option in combo with the rangefinder is a great idea for people who don't already have a rangefinder. I still have my old Bushnell. 

My only real gripe about SS is that sometimes it records the forward tees as "rough" and prompts me to "insert a tee shot" during round editing - that is my tee shot, shut up. I guess no one ever plays those tees. I do select those tees.

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48 minutes ago, DrvFrShow said:

My only real gripe about SS is that sometimes it records the forward tees as "rough" and prompts me to "insert a tee shot" during round editing - that is my tee shot, shut up. I guess no one ever plays those tees. I do select those tees.

You can reach out to support and they can add the tees.

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I'm not sure I really understand the point of the medals and the "points" (I have 2740 I think). Is it only used in the Leaderboards? I'd like to see the Leaderboards before I consent to signing up for them. Has anyone here used them?

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