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1 hour ago, Double Mocha Man said:

But it still didn't go longer than my gamer (by eyeball, staring the ball down until it finished its roll out).  So unless I want to buy the shot shape and height I won't be making any purchases.

Not to say the fitter was correct. The only reliable distance is carry distance. I know a guy who hit the ball supper low, and he would gain about 40 yards of distance from spring to end of summer because the course dried out and got fast. I bet he could have gotten fitted, hit the ball a tad higher, ended up not maxing out at his end of summer yardage, but overall averaged more distances. 

Never trust roll out numbers on a trackman or other launch monitor. 

Ball speed, vertical launch, spin rate are the primary numbers to watch. Also, smash factor for consistency of strike. 

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2 hours ago, saevel25 said:

Not to say the fitter was correct. The only reliable distance is carry distance. I know a guy who hit the ball supper low, and he would gain about 40 yards of distance from spring to end of summer because the course dried out and got fast. I bet he could have gotten fitted, hit the ball a tad higher, ended up not maxing out at his end of summer yardage, but overall averaged more distances. 

Never trust roll out numbers on a trackman or other launch monitor. 

Ball speed, vertical launch, spin rate are the primary numbers to watch. Also, smash factor for consistency of strike. 

Agreed. On the carry distance.  No dispute there.  But my eyeballs saw the story there, too. It's a familiar range, still a bit water soaked, and I took note of where the balls were landing, as well.  Before roll out.  

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On 5/29/2022 at 6:24 PM, Typhoon92 said:

Double Mocha Man, I use Trackman almost everyday during demo days/ clubfittings.  Here’s something  for you…

What he emailed you, did you see  every shot on there that gave the club a 40 yard advantage amd did you see every shot on there from your own club or did he just send you the average?

Heres why I asked… Trackman makes errors and if the operator doesn’t notice, you’ll end up with that 40 yard gain.  On occasion mine will read back spin of 227 and the distance will be wrong.  The 227 error is common on one of the ones I use.  Also, sometime is get a total misread with zero launch angle, zero spin and the yardage will be something like 542 yards, 665 yards.  Something I always catch and have a laugh over with the customer.  BUT… imagine if I didn’t catch a 665 yard misread, it ended up as part of the average I sent you??  There is your 40 yards.

I bring the customer in on the fitting. I show him all the lines of the shots he hit amd then show him the average.  He sees it all with me AND he gets it on email.

So this is a huge possibility of what happened.  I’d do it again and ask to look at it there with him.  The irons I believe…8-10 yards is what I see a lot.  40 yards on a driver is possible but you need to see line by line both drivers and look at the spin amd launch numbers… something might not add up.

Thanks Typhoon, I missed your post of yesterday.  I demoed 5 to 6 club/shaft configurations.  I was supplied only with averages, on all clubs.

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That drive sold me on my Sim Max. Check out that Club Speed and that Carry Distance. 😆I had them reset the machine. But it was photo worthy.

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25 minutes ago, DrvFrShow said:

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That drive sold me on my Sim Max. Check out that Club Speed and that Carry Distance. 😆I had them reset the machine. But it was photo worthy.

I'm going to have to work at getting my swing speed down to 86mph so I can drive the ball 417 yards.  Have you shown this secret of long-driving to Mr. DeChambeau yet?

 

 

 

 

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I should post it on his twitter. lol

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50 minutes ago, DrvFrShow said:

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That drive sold me on my Sim Max. Check out that Club Speed and that Carry Distance. 😆I had them reset the machine. But it was photo worthy.

That sure is a fuzzy screen. But, it's better than the one in a certain golf shop in Bellingham. That one is so out of focus it's difficult to read to read the text at all.

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9 hours ago, DrvFrShow said:

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That drive sold me on my Sim Max. Check out that Club Speed and that Carry Distance. 😆I had them reset the machine. But it was photo worthy.

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On 6/17/2022 at 8:30 PM, DrvFrShow said:

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That drive sold me on my Sim Max. Check out that Club Speed and that Carry Distance. 😆I had them reset the machine. But it was photo worthy.

Must have been downhill using a Rockflite😂

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