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3 minutes ago, mdl said:

Yeah I agree that as a rules official it's clear enough. It's explained elsewhere what is meant by taking a stance, and what counts as reasonable for assessing penalties and free drops and the like. I meant more like there's enough wiggle room that it seems plausible that Faxon just kinda knows that when it's really wet you can probably get an official to give you a free drop and if s/he doesn't the other players will feel aggrieved with you :-D 

I'd be surprised if he actually knows and understands the rule.  After all, he used terminology that hasn't been in the rules for more than 6 years.  

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1 hour ago, DaveP043 said:

I'd be surprised if he actually knows and understands the rule.  After all, he used terminology that hasn't been in the rules for more than 6 years.  

Oh did the temp water rule change in the big overhaul?!

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8 hours ago, mdl said:

Oh did the temp water rule change in the big overhaul?!

No, the term did.

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9 hours ago, mdl said:

Oh did the temp water rule change in the big overhaul?!

As @iacas says, the terminology changed form "casual water".  In addition, the Definition was revised slightly, to eliminate a bit of an out that Faxon may have remembered.  See the underlined in the current definition.

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Any temporary accumulation of water on the surface of the ground (such as puddles from rain or irrigation or an overflow from a body of water) that:

Is not in a penalty area, and

Can be seen before or after the player takes a stance (without pressing down excessively with their feet).

It is not enough for the ground to be merely wet, muddy or soft or for the water to be momentarily visible as the player steps on the ground; an accumulation of water must remain present either before or after the stance is taken.

I don't really remember what players used to do, but I'm guessing they would shift weight back and forth to pump up the water, and then say "See, there's water!"  Now that tactic shouldn't work with a competent referee.

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6 hours ago, iacas said:

No, the term did.

Ha. I never even considered that casual water, a term I still use sometimes, was officially changed to temporary water!

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56 minutes ago, mdl said:

Ha. I never even considered that casual water, a term I still use sometimes, was officially changed to temporary water!

Lots of us still use the old terms.  I just dont think that's good to do on television with a national championship.

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Just reporting in, I've gone a number of events with no unusual or interesting Rules issues.  But there WERE some interesting happenings.  A few weeks ago, a junior set a course record at a nearby club, posting a 59, 8 strokes clear of his nearest competitor.  But even more fun, I saw a young lady make her first hole-in-one on about a 160-yard par 3.  Since she couldn't quite see the putting surface, she didn't realize it was in until she got to the green, it was great to see her reaction.

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